[78-L] What's an ERPI?

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Thu Oct 13 20:08:53 PDT 2011


On 10/13/2011 10:57 PM, Thomas Stern wrote:
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> The ERPI GERTRUDE STEIN discs listed in Worldcat:
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> 8066-6  The Making Of Americans
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> 8068-6  A Valentine To Sherwood Anderson
> 8069-6  Selections From Madame Recamier An Opera
> 8070-6  Matisse
> 8071-6  If I Told Him. A Completed Portrait Of Picasso

The disc I have is 8068-6 and 8069-6, labelled Contemporary Poets III and IV. 
Making of Americans was "Parts 1 & 2" on the Caedmon lp, as I recall, so this 
all flows as a series.

dl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David Lennick
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] What's an ERPI?
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> The ERPI discs are in fact National Council of Teachers of English. I don't
> know if these predate the ten-inch red label discs, some of which I believe
> were dubbed from pregrooved aluminums. The ERPIs are very good quality, sound
> first generation..no tell-tale background noise as if from film or 33rpm
> lacquers. They're in a series called Contemporary Poets and are numbers 7-14
> (I'm missing sides 9&  10). For what it's worth, the one Gertrude Stein disc I
> have is on the same label and in the same series, numbers 3&  4. The Caedmon lp
> had 6 tracks so Stein could be on numbers 1/2 and 5/6, with Frost following.
> (And no, the Gertrude Stein sides don't have the same type of matrix numbers,
> although they still look as if they could have been cut by the same studio.)
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> dl
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> On 10/13/2011 10:39 PM, Thomas Stern wrote:
>> There is a notice of the ERPI Frost 78's in a poetry journal found in JSTOR (which I don't have access to, but may be
>> able to get it through a friend).  Sometimes these hits in google are misleading (shows part on article, and misses something
>> in between sections).  That article seemed to indicate 5 discs.
>> I guess the only valid way to document these releases is to see the actual discs.  Open invite to anyone having
>> the discs to provide discographical details!
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>> Worldcat also is problematic.  Lots of incomplete and mistaken entries.
>> The 4 discs they list are Council of Teachers of English - I speculate that these are later pressings of
>> the ERPI discs - perhaps they only issued 4 of the perhaps 5 - or whatever library did the cataloging only has
>> 4 of the 5.
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>> The CD is perhaps a dub of the 2 10inchers ???
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>> If I get the JSTOR article, I'll report what it actually says....
>> Best wishes, Thomas.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David Lennick
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:28 PM
>> To: 78-L Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] What's an ERPI?
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>> So the ten-inch lps are probably different..seems to me I sampled them briefly
>> when I got them to see if they might have been reissues of the earlier
>> recordings. And it looks as if there were only 4 78s (you'd mentioned 5). One
>> pair of numbers is missing between the discs I have, so I don't have
>> The runaway --
>> The road not taken --
>> Neither out far nor in deep --
>> Two tramps in mud time --
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>> dl
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>> On 10/13/2011 9:32 PM, Thomas Stern wrote:
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>>> I'm not sure the 2x10" LP's of Robert Frost are the same recordings as ERPI.
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>>> Worldcat also has entries for 78rpm National Council of Teachers of English releases.
>>>      National Council of Teachers of English.
>>> Performer(s): Robert Frost reading his poems.
>>> Description: 4 sound discs : 78 rpm ; 12 in.
>>> Contents:
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>>> Mending wall --
>>> Stopping by woods on a snowy evening --
>>> Dust of snow --
>>> Birches --
>>> The runaway --
>>> The road not taken --
>>> Neither out far nor in deep --
>>> Two tramps in mud time --
>>> Death of a hired man --
>>> The tuft of flowers --
>>> A peck of gold --
>>> Fire and ice.
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>>> The Worldcat entry for the LPs:
>>>>    From the Complete poems of Robert Frost.
>>> "Recorded and processed on vinylite by RCA Victor ; produced and distributed by the National Council of Teachers of English."
>>> Description: 2 sound discs ; analog, 33 1/3 rpm, mono. ; 10 in.
>>> Contents: Record 1. Birches ; Reluctance ; The woodpile ; The runaway ; The road not taken ; A peck of gold ; Stopping by woods
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>>> a snowy evening ; The death of the hired man ; The onset --
>>> Record 2. Mending wall ; Neither far out nor in deep ; Two tramps in mud time ; Tree at my window ; One step backward ; Desert
>>> places ; Fire and ice ; Dust of snow ; The pasture ; Mowing ; After apple picking. The white-tailed hornet ; The peaceful
>> shepherd
>>> ; A tuft of flowers ; Nothing gold can stay
>>> E1-LCB 1941-1944 National Council of Teachers of English
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>>> AND an "CD" - no libraries listed holding a copy (what does that mean ????)
>>> Notes: From the Complete poems of Robert Frost.
>>> Originally recorded and processed on vinylite by RCA Victor ; produced and distributed by the National Council of Teachers of
>>> English.
>>> Description: 1 sound disc : digital ; 4 3/4 in.
>>> Contents: Birches --
>>> Reluctance --
>>> The woodpile --
>>> The runaway --
>>> The road not taken --
>>> A peck of gold --
>>> Stopping by woods on a snowy evening --
>>> The death of the hired man --
>>> The onset --
>>> Mending wall --
>>> Neither far out nor in deep --
>>> Two tramps in mud time --
>>> Tree at my window --
>>> One step backward --
>>> Desert places --
>>> Fire and ice --
>>> Dust of snow --
>>> The pasture --
>>> Mowing --
>>> After apple picking --
>>> The white-tailed hornet --
>>> The peaceful shepherd --
>>> A tuft of flowers --
>>> Nothing gold can stay.
>>> Series Title: Contemporary poets series.
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David Lennick
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:24 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] What's an ERPI?
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>>> And of course, do you think I can find the ten-inch lps now that I want to
>>> check them? Silly boy.
>>>
>>> dl
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>>> On 10/13/2011 7:07 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>>>> I have the ten inch Frost lps..I wasn't sure if they were the same recordings
>>>> as the 78s. I have 3 of the 12-inch 78s and one Gertrude Stein, and I thought
>>>> that she had been recorded earlier (based on what I think it said on the
>>>> Caedmon lp). I suspect that the Frost 78s could date from 1938, if World was
>>>> using consecutive matrix numbers and just assigning appropriate prefixes to
>>>> them. The discs I have bear matrix numbers B17540/1 and 17544/7, and a World
>>>> Transcription of the Chevrolet Musical Moments series with a definite "new 1939
>>>> Chevrolet on display this October 11" reference is BB17438. Just speculation on
>>>> my part, but I'd say that all discs were cut by the same company.
>>>>
>>>> dl
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