[78-L] European Sound Recording Copyright Extension^

[Cary Ginell]

No. Grofe arranged a copyrighted work. Only if he arranged it AFTER the work went into the public domain could he copyright it. And since Ferde died in 1972, that would have been impossible for any of GG's works.

Cary Ginell

> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:30:23 -0400
> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] European Sound Recording Copyright Extension^
> 
> Wouldn't Ferde Grofe's arrangement be copyrighted? George orchestrated the 
> Concerto (with William Daly?), An American in Paris and the subsequent concert 
> works.
> 
> dl
> 
> On 9/16/2011 4:44 PM, Cary Ginell wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure. I believe I recall hearing that certain George Gershwin works were protected by the Ira side of the estate by making minute changes to the music so that it could be re-copyrighted as an arrangement. I could be way off base on this, but there were some instances where George-only works had their copyrights extended in this manner.
> >
> > Cary Ginell
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:57:51 -0400
> >> From: jeffsultanof at gmail.com
> >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] European Sound Recording Copyright Extension^
> >>
> >> Hasn't Rhapsody in Blue been P.D. in England since 1988?
> >>
> >> Jeff Sultanof
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Julian Vein<julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 16/09/11 02:08, Cary Ginell wrote:
> >>>> Any composition that was going to expire after its 75 year term was up
> >>> (e.g. Rhapsody in Blue, which would have gone P.D. on January 1, 2000), now
> >>> has an extra 20 years tacked onto its life. Copyrighted works published
> >>> before January 1, 1978 are NOT grandfathered into the Life + 70 rule - for
> >>> the U.S., that is. As an example, under the current law, Rhapsody in Blue
> >>> will go into the public domain IN THE U.S. on January 1, 2020, 95 years
> >>> after it was copyrighted. For the rest of the world, Rhapsody in Blue will
> >>> go P.D. on January 1, 2018, or 70 years after the death of Gershwin. So the
> >>> rarity is that a song will go P.D. for the rest of the world BEFORE it does
> >>> so in the States.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cary Ginell
> >>>>
> >>> =======================
> >>> I'm gonna open up pressing plants in South Georgia and Ascension Island
> >>> and see what happens!
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