[78-L] Librarian's many records

[Malcolm Rockwell]

Sounds to me like the producer and/or mix-down engineer(s) have no idea 
about 3 dimensional spacial placement. This concept means little to the 
modern recording engineer (the person who actually records the basic 
tracks) but is indispensable to the mix-down engineer. Without it a 
recording will be as you say.
Unfortunately recording and mix-down are usually the same guy. Not a 
good move, IMNSHO. All the prejudices of the single engineer are carried 
forward from the first part of the process to the next, and there's 
usually enough of that with the producer!
If a project was a large one I'd usually suggest a three step process, 
each using different engineers: recording, mix-down and mastering. All 
are specialized fields of engineering and new ears never hurt. If they 
do then you can  find another engineer to do that part of the project 
and none of the previous work is lost.
Malcolm

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On 8/29/2011 3:52 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
> I find that in modern recordings, everything is muddled together, the singer doesn't stand out from the band, the bass is too prominent etc.  On old recordings in mono, you at least get the sense that the singer is in front.  Maybe it is a subtle time delay.  With older stereo you get a sense of space on most recordings.  Once everyone was put in their own little booths with headphones to hear the rest of the group, forget it.  The result is a flat plane of mixed up sound.
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> Ron L
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Rodger Holtin
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 6:32 PM
> To: 78-L Mail List
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Librarian's many records
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> " Fans insist that vinyl sounds better, fuller, richer than digital music or CDs.
> “Warmer,” Schottlaender said.
> “With a CD,” said Bram Dijkstra, professor emeritus of English at UCSD, “the sonority, the sound qualities, are often flat. Everything seems to be on the same level. With a well-recorded LP, you can close your eyes and you can literally point out that the trumpet player is in front, say, the drummer in back, that sort of thing.” "
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> OK - C'mon - beyond the surface noise, can anybody on this list truly claim to tell the difference between vinyl and digital in a blindfold test?  Really?  Tinker with the eq and move everybody around, even in mono, no?
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> Rodger
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> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
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> --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Steve Ramm<steveramm78l at hotmail.com>  wrote:
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> From: Steve Ramm<steveramm78l at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [78-L] Librarian's many records
> To: "78-l 78-l"<78-l at 78online.com>
> Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:59 AM
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> This was posted on the MLA newsgroup and though NOT 78s you might find interesting.
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> http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/29/librarians-many-many-records/
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> Steve
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