[78-L] Early electrics - again

[simmonssomer]

I was under the impression that Victor 19626  (Mx 32170-2) the  "Buenos 
Aires" side by Jack Shilkret,   March 20, 1925 in Camden was the first "pop"
electric by Victor.
The first electric "pop" recorded at the NYC studios was (Mx 32982-2) 
"Sometime" Victor 19745 by Jack Shilkret.

Al Simmons

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From: "Bryan Wright" <bryan at claxtonola.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: [78-L] Early electrics - again


> Today while cataloguing some Victor 19600-series records in my
> collection, I came across Victor 19621 - the Trinity Choir singing
> "Hark, Hark My Soul" and "Prayer of Thanksgiving." What intrigued me
> is that this is an electric recording. I can tell this both from
> listening to the record and also by the customary "VE" bug in the
> runout. Both sides of my copy show take -1. I looked the disc up in
> EDVR and they show only takes 2 and 4 issued, with take 1 for each
> title marked "Hold." All takes appear to have been made on the same
> date: March 4, 1925 in Victor's Camden studio. The EDVR page has a
> note that the prefixes to the matrix numbers (BE-32167 and BE-32166)
> suggest electric recordings, but a handwritten entry in the Victor
> ledger says "Miss Bushnell says elec. rec'g started Mar. 11, 1925 in
> one room only." Does anyone have a copy with takes 2 and 4? Are they
> acoustic or electric?
>
> I know that Victor 19626 (Mask and Wig Glee Chorus) is always cited as
> the "first" Victor electric recording. The two sides of that record
> were made March 16 and 20, 1925. We know that the "Miniature Concert
> by the Eight Popular Victor Artists" (Victor 35753) was recorded
> electrically in Camden on February 26, 1925, but not issued until
> several months later.
>
> EDVR shows that 19626 was issued in April 1925. I suppose then that it
> qualifies as the first electric recording that Victor released. 19621
> was issued the following month, but it was recorded first and bears a
> lower catalogue number. I realize that Victor went back and re-
> recorded a few earlier titles and released them under the original
> catalogue numbers (Dalhart's "Wreck of the Old 97" comes to mind), but
> might 19621 be the lowest catalogue number *and* the earliest
> recording in the standard 10-inch popular series to be originally
> issued as an electric recording? EDVR doesn't show that the title was
> ever re-made at a later date, so I assume the electric recordings on
> my copy were made on the March 4, 1925 date shown in EDVR. (And if
> they *were* remakes from later, wouldn't the take numbers be higher
> since Victor usually kept the same matrix number for remakes?) I
> wonder if Victor made acoustic and electric versions on the same date
> as they had with the "Miniature Concert" record the week before?
>
> Bryan W.
>
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