[78-L] 25 years ago today

[.]

  Thomas DeLong kinda tainted my mind with his focus on Paul Whiteman's 
alleged nastiness when he was drinking - and he focused on the drinking, for 
that matter.  Don Rayno never mentions it, but includes quotes from Paul's 
musicians such as "I love this man".  Both are probably true.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Sultanof" <jeffsultanof at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] 25 years ago today


> Show business has always been filled with real characters.
>
> There are a few who saw the nicer side of Goodman. In many cases, the
> stories reflect that he was simply out of it and not focused on anything 
> but
> his music. He did have some truly unpleasant relationships with certain
> musicians, and his actions were often tactless. On the other hand, Tommy
> Dorsey (Jimmy was a great drinking buddy) and most certainly Buddy Rich
> could be downright cruel (although trumpeter/leader Dean Pratt thought 
> Buddy
> was a sweetheart).
>
> Shaw was certainly one-of-a-kind, but I've never heard of a musician in 
> one
> of his bands have a bad thing to say about him, interestingly enough. His
> personal life was another story. In his case, the media attention 
> certainly
> had an adverse effect on him. He never wanted to be famous, and he didn't
> want his life examined in the press.
>
> I think I said earlier that the idea of black musicians joining Benny was
> not due initially to Benny's progressive attitudes, but to John Hammond's
> hounding him to hire certain musicians. Hammond was using Benny to break 
> the
> popular music color line. Benny had misgivings initially about hiring 
> Teddy
> Wilson, and he got around it by featuring Wilson with the small group, so
> that it didn't look like he was a regular member of the band. Of course,
> once no one really cared about it, he just incorporated Wilson and Hampton
> into his big band.
>
> Jeff Sultanof
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Julian Vein 
> <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> On 14/06/11 19:57, Taylor Bowie wrote:
>> >
>> > Jan Savitt had a black vocalist (George Tunnell,  aka Bon-Bon).  Not
>> sure,
>> > but I think he hired him even before Shaw hired Holiday.
>> >
>> >
>> > Taylor
>> Bon Bon recorded with Jan Savitt for the first time 18 Feb 1937.
>> June Richmond recorded with Jimmy Dorsey 15+16 Mar 1938.
>> Billie Holiday with Artie Shaw 24 Jul 1938 (if you ignore the session
>> where he was a sideman for Billie).
>>
>>      Julian Vein
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