[78-L] Mae West - MezzoTone recordings
David Lennick
dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sun May 22 19:31:34 PDT 2011
Did you find the link to Yiddish Radio in New York? Fascinating stuff.
dl
On 5/22/2011 8:53 PM, Thomas Stern wrote:
>
> I've spent a bit of time searching the internet - Cherniavcsky had an interesting career:
>
> NY Times obit:
> http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00812F73858137B93C6A9178AD95F4D8585F9&scp=2&sq=josef%20cherniavsky&st=cse
>
> Libby Hotel: http://apps.netbiscuits.com/178809/HIMobile/articleDetail.aspx?articleid=15178
>
> May 4 1945 - conductor at Carnegie Hall Jazzfest JAMES P JOHNSON concert
>
> but, nothing about Mezzotone......
>
> Best wishes, Thomas.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Stern
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> There is an eBay sheet music item 250823378361
> composer given as JOSEPH CHERNEY (music)
> picture of JOSEF CHERNIAVSKY
>
> perhaps the same person?
>
> Best wishes, Thomas.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David Lennick
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] Mae West - MezzoTone recordings
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>
> Try Josef Cherniavsky..definitely in the 1954 ASCAP book as a composer, musical
> director, scored the first film version of "Show Boat" etc. Lots of Google
> links as well.
>
> dl
>
> On 5/22/2011 2:11 PM, david.diehl at hensteeth.com wrote:
>> Which reminds me-Does anyone have any info on Josef Charnivasky? He's listed as co-composer on a few of West's tunes. He's not
> in the 1966 ASCAP directory.
>> DJD
>> Visit the Blue Pages: the Encyclopedic Guide to 78 RPM Party Records
>> http://www.hensteeth.com
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Lennick [mailto:dlennick at sympatico.ca]
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 09:17 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Mae West - MezzoTone recordings
>>
>> Lenny Marvin is correct, my misreading of my own notes and the Living Era liner put Herman in there. Josef Cherniavsky is
> definitely credited on about half the 78 labels. The MezzoTone 78s look pre-1950 to me. How's this for a scenario? Cyclone existed
> only in 1947, put out only one of Mae's discs, and she retrieved the masters (or had licensed them) and put them out on two lps
> and one 78 set (I don't know if anyone has ever seen volume 2 on 78). Both lps are listed in one "Long Player" I have (November
> 1952) but not in any of the 1950 or 1951 Schwanns I have, nor anything later. Long Player lists them as Mezzotone 1 and Mezzotone
> 2, by the way.A note I filed away from The Blue Pages says that the twelfth side is by a female impersonator named Auntie
> Dorothy.dlOn 5/22/2011 9:14 AM, Han Enderman wrote:> Thomas, if you want them I can send images of the 6 Mezzotone 78 labels
> (100-102)> and of Cyclone 505 in 2 label versions. I have only seen album 11 and have never seen>
> anythi
>> ng else on Mezzotone (so album numbering started with 11, it seems).>> Apparently Cyclone is the orig. label, dated 1947 in
> ARLD, but at present only a single> Mae West 78 is known).> Mezzotone not in ARLD; can it be confirmed that Mezzotone 78s are
> from the 50s?> It would be interesting to have more precise info on the 45s.>> The band leader is Lenny MARVIN on 6 titles (not
> Herman).>> The Cyclone label has been discussed here (actually "there" on the old forum) and I saved> at least part of it.
> Interesting stuff. I'll reprint the info below (uncensored) for those interested.> Maybe someone has additional info by now?> I
> saved Cyclone label images (505-A/B; 608-A) in 2005/06 and have seen no other one> since then. Anyone has another one (or knows a
> website with info)?> Well, now that's a really rare jazz label.... forget those common Black Pattis....>> Han Enderman>> HERE
> IS reprinted CYCLONE info:>>> Subject: Cyclone Records - Peters Sisters, Budd Johnson,
> Buck and Bubbles>
>> > From: Ray Funk>>>> I am trying to gather information on the obscure post-war label, Cyclone>> Records, that Sam Manning
> ran briefly in 1947 in New York, I recently found>> an advertisement for the label in the New York Amsterdam News and have>>
> gotten additional information from John Cowley and Howard Rye.>>>> I am interested if anyone has any copies of the records on
> this label. I am>> trying to get label jpegs and copies of recordings if possible.>>>> There was an ad for Cyclone Records, 1560
> Broadway, Rm 805, NYC in the NY>> Amsterdam News July 26, 1947 p. 19 giving info on three releases>>>> 606-A PETERS SISTERS
> Money Power (S. Manning and A. Thenstead) Musical>> Settings by Adolph Thenstead's Antilleans>> 606-B BABY EDITH PETERS (Love)
> Plaything Of Fate (S. Manning and A.>> Thenstead) Musical Settings by Adolph Thenstead's Antilleans>>>> At least one or two
> copies of this release exist and I have gotten label>> scans>>>> I cannot find anyone who ha
> s the second one by
>> Buck and Bubbles>>>> 608 A - Bubbles Turn Back the Clock>> 608 B - Buck Send Me My Overcoat>>>> Bob McGrath's the R&B
> Indies lists additional and partly contradictory info:>> 608 Same titles but credited to Budd Johnson& His Orchestra, perhaps
> they>> were the backing band>>>> The third on the ad is listed as>>>> 609 A - Budd Johnson My Heart's Doin' Time
> (instrumental)>> 612 B - Mary Stafford vocalist (with Budd Johnson) I Just Can't Find That>>>> These two titles have been
> reissued on>> The Chronological Classics Budd Johnson 1942-1954>>>> Bob McGrath's the R&B Indies also lists>>>> 609 Budd
> Johnson& His Orchestra: I Just Can't Find That Kind>> 610 (rev. 610) Budd Johnson& His Orchestra: Hybrid No. 5>>>> 611 Budd
> Johnson& His Orchestra: My Heart's Doing Time>> 612 (rev. 611) Budd Johnson& His Orchestra: My Heart's Doing Time>>
> (instrumental)>>>> Jan Evensmo, Budd Johnson solography in History of Jazz Tenor Saxophone,>> believes Johnson recorded at
> least 8 titles for Cyclone
>> and has heard>>>> mx 614-A Twistology Cyclone 612>> mx 615-B Lonesome (Blues) Cyclone 609> ----------> There is a listing
> for it on page 435 of the 1947-48 Billboard Yearbook,> published in 1947:> "A subsidary of Antillian Music Features, Inc.,
> Cyclone platters was formed> in January of the current year by Prexy Adolf Thenstad, V.P. and Gen. Mgr.> Sam Manning, Adv. Mgr.
> Leroy Collins, and Murry Spaan, Promotion Manager.> During the past year the firm has waxed a number of leading personalities of>
> show business, including Mae West, who signed a five-year pact with Cyclone,> Buck and Bubbles and Mantan Morland, top sepia
> vaudville personalities, plus> blues singer Mary Stafford and Budd Johnson's Orchestra. Recordings are> made under the
> supervision of Ken Macomber, musical director.">> There is a half page ad on page 252 which pictures a blank label format and>
> the label for 608-B "Send Me My Overcoat" although it is so small it is hard> to read anything
> but the song title
>> and the trademark. The ad says> "Attention! Disk Jockeys and Distributors. They're great for juke boxes.> They're GREAT for
> Retail Stores." Six records are listed, and there is a> picture of each of the performers. 505, 606, 608, 609, 612, and 616.>
> Because the info in the ad is a little different than what has been listed> of several of these, I'll give what the ad says.>>
> 505-A Come Up and See Me Sometime Mae West> 505-B That's All, Brother, That's All Mae West> (This record is described in the ad
> as "Her first smash hit exclusive on> Cyclone Records." Does this mean that this is her first smash hit EVER, or> just the first
> one that was exclusive to Cyclone?????)>> 606-A Money Power vocal - Peters Sisters> 606-B Love, Plaything of Fate vocal - Baby
> Edith Peters> (They are described as "Heavyweight Champions of Harmony in 'CALYPSO> Swings.'")>> 608-A Turn Back the Clock
> Vocal - Bubbles> 608-B Send Me My Overcoat Vocal - Buck> Buck and Bubbles (Comedy So
> ng Stylists)> Interna
>> tional Stars of Radio - Stage and Screen>> 609-A My Heart's Doin' Time (instrumental)> Budd Johnson and "his Cyclone
> Instrumental All Stars">> 612-B I Just Can;t Find That Kind (Blues)> Mary Stafford (vocal) The Blues New Sweetheart> "Blues
> Stylist" With Budd Johnson's Cyclone All Stars>> 616 Laffin' Song (Baby, Stop Ticklin' Me)> What Did It Getcha!> Mantan
> (Birmingham) Morland> (described as His First Smash Hit!)>> I don't think I have ever seen any of these. I'll be sending a scan
> of the> ad directly to Ray Funk.>> Mike Biel mbiel at kih.net> -------------> Cyclone 608 was on ebay in March 2006 and I have
> the picture of the A side.> Credited to: Buck& Bubbles / Orchestra: Budd Johnson.>> I also have pictures of 505 by Mae West (in
> 2 label variants).> ARLD mentions 107 (6/47).> (he)> =====>>>>> I believe she recorded 11 titles that were issued in two
> albums on Mezzotone> (one might have been LP only, Mezzotone 21). There's a 12th side that is an> un
> identified performer (ident
>> ity and gender). I've had the first album on 78> and lp but only a dub of the second one. Living Era CD AJA 5604 has 9 of the
> 11> sides. The track you haven't listed is He's A Bad Man. All apparently date from> 1947 with groups led by Lenny Herman and
> Josef Cherniavsky. And one broken> Cyclone 78 was reported here years ago.>> I've filled in the numbers and the extra title as I
> have them.>> dl>> On 5/21/2011 3:10 PM, Thomas Stern wrote:>>>>>> I have noticed a commonality of titles included in the
> following releases:>>>> CYCLONE 506 - 78rpm>> MEZZOTONE - album 11 3-78rpm Album of Mae West Songs>> MEZZOTONE - album ??
> 3-45rpm>> PR 22 - PROSCENIUM records W.C.Fields& Mae West LP>> DPC 718 - DEMAND PERFORMANCE cassette (Glendale, CA) 1986 Mae
> West Naughty But Wise>>>>>> QUESTIONS:>> Are these all derived from the MezzoTone recordings?>> What information is available
> about MezzoTone and Cyclone labels?>> Are there additional Cyclone Mae West releases?>> Can
> anyone provide complet
>> e session details for Mezzotone?>> What are the record numbers for the individual Mezzotone disks?>> Are there any CD issues
> of these Mae West recordings?>> What is known of Demand Performance?>> What other releases were on Demand Performance - were
> there LP's as well as cassettes?>>>> Here is the list of titles and releases:>>> My Man Friday Mezzotone Album 11(102A), 45rpm
> PR 22 DPC-718> Page 54 Mezzotone Album 11(102B) PR 22 DPC-718> Imaginary Love Mezzotone Album 11 (101B)> Frankie& Johnny
> Mezzotone Album 11 (100B) PR 22 DPC-718> Come Up& See Me Sometime Mezzotone Album 11 (100A) 45rpm Cyclone 505A PR 22 DPC-718>
> That's All Brother That's All Mezzotone Album 11 (101A) 45rpm Cyclone 505B PR 22 DPC-718> Slow Down Mezzotone Album 21 (LP)
> 45rpm? PR 22 DPC-718> Put It Off Until Tomorrow Mezzotone Album 21 (LP) 45rpm? PR 22 DPC-718> A Guy What Takes His Time
> Mezzotone Album 21 (LP) 45rpm?> Pardon Me For Loving and Running Mezzotone Album 21 (LP) PR 22 DPC-7
> 18> He's a Bad Man Me
>> zzotone Album 21 (LP)>>>> THANKS!>> Best wishes, Thomas.> <<<> _______________________________________________> 78-L
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