[78-L] Museum quality?

Fri May 6 19:32:05 PDT 2011

Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:03:46 +0200
From: Erwin Kluwer <ekluwer at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Museum quality?
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Thanks Taylor.

These are wise words!  ( no:  I am not sarcastic)

But you David you are just, so, so.....so jealous of me and my record
collection........ Brrrrrfffffttt!
Erwin
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com> wrote:

> I'm sort of in the middle on this.  I don't care much about mis-spellings
> unless they give me an opportunity to make some bad puns (yes,  I know some
> think that all puns are bad).  But isn't it fair to question a person who
> makes a big point of calling himself an expert and offering records for
> large amounts of money and yet makes repeated spelling errors?  That's OK
> if
> it's a sign for a yard sale down the block but it makes be feel a little
> strange to see it with someone offering 78s for hundreds and thousands of
> dollars.
>
> And said seller does make me a little nervous with that tone of desperation
> which seems to flow through  many/most of his listings, e.g.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/78-RPM-ULTRA-RARE-1908-20IN-PATHE-SILENT-MOVIE-RECORD-E-/390210291254?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item5ada588636
>
> We can argue all day about what constitutes fraud and what is just wishful
> thinking,  greed, ignorance,  etc. on the part of a seller,  but I think it
> should be OK in this forum to discuss problems any of us might have had
> with
> sellers,  and not be dumped on for being mean or judgmental.
>
> My 10,000+ eBay transactions have all been fine with maybe 10 -12
> exceptions...and I appreciate some of the warnings and info about sellers
> which I've received here on 78-L.
>
>
> Taylor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Ventresco" <craigventresco at gmail.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Museum quality?
>
>
>  > Agreed!
> >
> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Paul Christenzen <picz65 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Geez.... some of you need to get a life!  In the past I've only seen a
> >> certain snobbishness (Ken Griffin jokes) and some poor attempts at humor
> >> but now we're grading their intelligence based on their Spell Check
> >> program?  And calling them names 'cause we don't like what they write.
> >> And reporting them to eBay even though we've done no business with them
> >> and hundreds ARE satisfied.  You guys ought to join the Peace Corps or
> >> go volunteer at a shelter - do something good for the world and keep
> >> your nose where it belongs.
> >>
> >> Paul C
> >>
> >> Erwin Kludge wrote:
> >> > His descriptions are outright false and there to misguide people....
> >> > That
> >> is
> >> > fraud sir... I don't care if this guy is your friend .....or what you
> >> think
> >> > of me...
> >> >
> >> > Erwin
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Darrell Lehman<nickjay49 at gmail.com>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Excuse me but the starting price was $1 - if 6 bidders (so far) want
> >> >> that label for their collection who are "we" to call the seller a
> >> >> thief
> >> >> and an asshole - obviously the kettle calling the pot...
> >> >>
> >> >> And where do "we" see "thousands of dollars"???
> >> >>
> >> >> I've known this seller for 20+ years and he's none of the above!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> have a nice day. DL (not be confused w/...)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> =================================================================================
> >> >>   Erwin Kluwer wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> The guy is a thief so much is clear!! Asking thousands of dollars
> >> >>> (for
> >> >>>
> >> >> some
> >> >>
> >> >>> records) and the nerve to state "no grade" an no return.... what an
> >> >>>
> >> >> asshole!
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I just reported him to Ebay as a fraud.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Erwin
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> So, somebody tell me why a record with two rim chips that go 10-15
> >> >>>>
> >> >> grooves
> >> >>
> >> >>>> into the record, which has "numerous scratches," and is being sold
> >> with
> >> >>>>
> >> >> that
> >> >>
> >> >>>> terrifying hyphenated word "as-is" qualifies as a museum piece?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/78-RPM-MUSEUM-QUALITY-BLACK-PATTI-6027-NO-GRADE-/390311049472?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item5ae059f900
> >> >>
> >> >>>> Cary Ginell
> >> >>>>
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 10:07:01 -1000
From: Malcolm Rockwell <malcolm at 78data.com>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Museum quality?
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Silent movie record? You mean it's blank? Or is there just one silent 
groove?
Still, 150K is a wee bit steep.
Mal

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On 5/6/2011 9:50 AM, Taylor Bowie wrote:
> <snip>
>
> And said seller does make me a little nervous with that tone of desperation
> which seems to flow through  many/most of his listings, e.g.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/78-RPM-ULTRA-RARE-1908-20IN-PATHE-SILENT-MOVIE-RECORD-E-/390210291254?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item5ada588636
>
> <snip>
>
> Taylor
>

Well he did offer free shipping on his 150K sweetie. That should account for something. 

The way he comes across is the kind of person the Marx Brothers had fun with in their movies.

I am glad he does not live next to me.

I would not spend that kind of money on something a pampas a&%  was selling.

Ken