[78-L] Edge Bite

[Michael Biel]

That figure of the glue thickness of .0015 is even more a bunch of 
hooey.  Maybe YOU have problems with misalligned grooves in glued 
records (you've often talked about your hand control problems), but that 
is not my experience.  I recently put together a 5-piece record just for 
the hell of it and it tracks -- let's see if the declickers can fix 
it!!  There were a bunch of edgebite discs that came in that same 
shipment (the cardboards were taped too tight)  and most of them fit 
together perfectly, sometimes even practically soundlessly.  I CAN do 
it.  It DOES work.  The liquid glue does NOT take up space when used 
sparingly on the rough broken edges.

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com

On 5/5/2011 12:03 AM, Steven C. Barr wrote:
> From: "Michael Biel"<mbiel at mbiel.com>
>> On 5/4/2011 12:33 AM, Steven C. Barr wrote:
>>> From: "Michael Biel"<mbiel at mbiel.com>
>>>> On 5/3/2011 10:25 PM, Steven C. Barr wrote:
>>>>> I always used "Super Glue" (bought at dollar srores. You are very
>>>>> fortunate that the breaqk is outside the "playing grooves"...repairing
>>>>> a record with a "bite" in the playing grooves is complicated by the
>>>>> fact that the thickness of the adhesive displaces the groove...!
>>>>>
>>>> Maybe you are using the gel type, because regular liquid Super Glue does
>>>> NOT add any thickness at the joins.  That is why it works.  But
>>>> remember, you have to use very, very little.
>>>>
>>> Keep in mind we are talking about grooves that are .003" wide...so
>>> even the width of one coat of "Super Glue" adds about .0005" or
>>> half a groove width...!
>>>
>>> Steven C. Barr
>> No it doesn't.  The pieces fit together exactly like they do with no
>> glue.  The liquid fills into the pores of the rough shellac edges.
>> Where did you get that figure of.0005?  Even if it wasn't just pulled
>> out of your butt it is not a half but a sixth of .003.
>>
> My error...which I realized right after I sent it...!
>   It should be .0015." As far as the liquid "not taking up any space"
> I have always found that even with liquid SuperGlue there was a
> noticeable space taken by the glue...so that a glued record with an
> edge bite does NOT result in the repaired grooves being
> perfectly aligned...! As thin as the layer of glue might be, it
> still seems to result in NON-aligned grooves...!
>
> Steven C. Barr