[78-L] Question 1812 Overture

Robert M. Bratcher Jr. rbratcherjr at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 1 20:49:58 PDT 2011


Well I've never owned any of the Oberstein label 78's. Nothing on one yet that I 
wanted to buy, keep & play. On the other hand my experience with  Varsity & most 
other 50's era budget LP's is that they all used lower quality vinyl & many I've 
found have a lot of background hiss while the record is played. Oh & what was 
that Varsity LP like as far as sound quality? Good, fair or what? Was there much 
hiss in it that didn't come from the 78's they were dubbed from?




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From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
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The LP. I don't have proof that the Mengelberg 1812 Overture appeared on an 
Oberstein 78 issue (more likely on Royale, as well as Masterpiece, Philharmonic 
and other budget labels) since WERM goes to "etc." after listing the known 
major recordings, but the LP label refers to "Parts 1-4". Actually I don't find 
the surfaces so terrible on Obie's 78s in the early 40s. Certainly better than 
Decca.

dl

On 4/1/2011 8:34 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> So did you sample a Varsity 78 or a Varsity LP? Oh&  whats the shellac quality
> of Varsity 78's like? More noisy than Victor&  Columbia 78's I'm sure.....
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> I think I sampled it once to confirm that it was the same recording, but
> Varsity had more direct access to Telefunken 78s going back to the early 40s.
> So they wouldn't have lifted the Mercury transfer.
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> dl
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> On 4/1/2011 7:29 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>> Yes I know the vinyl (on Varsity LP issues) is lousy. I just wanted to know 
if
>> they used the Mercury transfer with the wow problem in it.
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>> What, me listen to a Varsity issue?
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>> dl
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>> On 4/1/2011 4:57 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>> But does the wow in the recording show up in the Varsity&  related labels?
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>>> Mercury Classics dubs from Czech Masters almost ALWAYS wowed. What a waste.
>> And
>>> then they'd dub THOSE to lp rather than work from the originals again.
>> Although
>>> I remember the ten inch Mercury lp of the 1812 as sounding pretty
> decent..they
>>> didn't bother to eliminate the repeated notes between sides 2&  3 though.
> That
>>> same Mengelberg set turns up on Varsity and related labels.
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>>> dl
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