[78-L] Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out - who was thecomposer?

[Frank Scott]

Blind Bobby Baker was a pseudonym for blues singer/ guitarist Bobby Leecan
who recorded quite a few titles in 1926 and '27 - usually in the company of
harmonica player Robert Cooksey - very nice stuff!

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> bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of simmonssomer
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> thecomposer?
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> According to  "Lissauer's Encyclopedia of Popular Music" words and music
by
> Jimmy Cox. 1923.
> (I can't find anything else on him either.)
> First recorded by by Bobby Baker (Pathe) then Bessie Smith (Col) Pine Top
> Smith (Voc)
> 
> Al Simmons
> 
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> From: "Tim Huskisson" <timhuskisson at btinternet.com>
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> Subject: [78-L] Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out - who was
> thecomposer?
> 
> 
> > After reading of the death of Pinetop Perkins, my attention turned to
his
> > inspiration, Pine-Top Smith. I had not realised that P.T. Smith had
> > recorded
> > 'Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out' for Vocalion some four
> months
> > before Bessie Smith.
> >
> > But after searching the On-Line Discographical Project, I discovered
> > another
> > version by a vocal group - 'Aunt Jemima Novelty Four'.
> > If the sources are reliable, it would seem Bessie Smith's recording was
> > made
> > on May 15, 1929 and the other two versions, BOTH on Jan 1, 1929.
> > But who wrote the song? My British Parlophone issue gives the composer
as
> > 'Jimmy Cox' (who I can find no information about), and (for Bessie's
> > version, the On-Line Discographical Project indicates IDA COX-B.FELDMAN
> > were
> > the composers. Were Jimmy and Ida related?
> >
> > But the 'Aunt Jemima Novelty Four' version was evidently composed by
> > Fugitte
> > - Burns. (Who were they?). Rust's 'Jazz Records' shows some 1929-1930
> > sessions for Brunswick and Gennett by vocal duettists 'PETE & REPEAT' (?
> > ___Fugitte and ? ___Bruns).
> >
> > To confuse the issue further, REDHOTJAZZ.COM indicates that Pine-Top
> > Smith,
> > himself, was the composer!
> >
> > Can anyone here shed any more light on the history of this song?
> > Many thanks,
> > Tim Huskisson
> >
> >
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