[78-L] Ted Lewis (was Goldkette)

[Michael Biel]

Although it is a bit disconcerting to read in Cary's new subject line 
that Ted Lewis was Goldkette, I do agree that some of the Lewis records 
are hot.  Plus it is important to note that when you do find alternate 
takes there are a lot of changes, ad libs, and variant solos even on the 
part of Mr. Lewis himself.  I especially like Bo La Bo, and do have a 
pair of takes.

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com

On 1/25/2011 1:31 PM, Cary Ginell wrote:
> Dip Your Brush in the Sunshine is my favorite. Even Lewis' exultations ("Paint it red, Muggsy! Paint it red! Red hot! Red hot! That's it!" during Spanier's solo) are fun.
>
> Cary ("Yes, Sir!") Ginell
>
>> From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:08:50 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Goldkette
>>
>> Yup...when you average it all out,  there's more hot stuff on Lewis records
>> than there is corn.  Even something like the Columbia of "Is Everybody
>> Happy?" swings right along,  even with Ted's shrill contribution!
>>
>> Hard to pick a favorite Lewis record,  but one of the less well-known sides
>> which has always stood out for me is his version of "Glad Rag Doll."  Pretty
>> dismal song,  but you'd never know it when Don Murray and band get through
>> with it...right down to a riff ride-out.  Also get to hear Murray on
>> baritone as well as clarinet.  Mighty fine stuff.
>>
>> Taylor
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cary Ginell"<soundthink at live.com>
>> To:<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Goldkette
>>
>>
>>> I was prejudiced against Ted Lewis because of his reputation for playing
>>> corny clarinet. But some of his records consist of pretty darn hot jazz.
>>>
>>> Cary Ginell
>>>
>>>> From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
>>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:43:58 -0800
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Goldkette
>>>>
>>>> I'm with you,  Julian...it's entirely academic for me and interesting as
>>>> history,  but nothing to do with the enjoyment of the music itself.
>>>>
>>>> If the music is good,  I don't care who is playing it.  I got into an
>>>> argument with someone recently who seemed to be making the case that a
>>>> certain record could not be good because of who made it...not anything to
>>>> do
>>>> with the actual music but because the artist was on that person's
>>>> shit-list.
>>>>
>>>> What a shame...one of the most fun things for me is making discoveries of
>>>> good music wherever it might be found.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Taylor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Julian Vein"<julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>
>>>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Goldkette
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>>>>> That Goldkette article in VJM really is great...and it's going "to be
>>>>>> continued" as well.  It ends just before they start talking about the
>>>>>> Goldkette version of "Birmingham Bertha." which has been a fave of
>>>>>> mine
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've inferred that they don't think there are any black players on any
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the Goldkette records..but maybe "BB" is the exception?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Taylor
>>>>> ===============
>>>>> I've skimmed through the article, but the truth is that if there had
>>>>> been any major soloists involved, then there would have been no doubt
>>>>> who was present. The proposition that there may have been some black
>>>>> players on Goldkette recordings is a pretty academic one. The important
>>>>> thing  is the music--is it any good? Are there people out there whose
>>>>> sole reason for playing certain Goldkette recordings is on the
>>>>> off-chance of some McKinney personnel being present?
>>>>>
>>>>>       Julian Vein
>>>>> ______________________