[78-L] Buster Bailey [was Pre-bop [was Five Faves]]

[simmonssomer]

A notable difference betyween the feel or beat of the Henderson and 
Lunceford bands was that Lunceford played mostly 2/4 and Henderson 4/4.
Perhaps no "push" was wanted by Lunceford, ..just a relaxed, very swinging, 
rhythm. Quien sabe.

Al Simmons

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julian Vein" <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [78-L] Buster Bailey [was Pre-bop [was Five Faves]]


> yves francois wrote:
> Julian
> will check for a mono copy @ JRM.
> re: Crawford, good drummer, better ones were available in NYC 1958,
> could be Dance (and also George T Simon) both having a penchant for
> Crawford have something to do with his choice - think the Lunceford feel
> is rather different than the more free swinging Henderson feel. IMHO
> Walter Johnson would have been a better choice - could have been
> available (was w Tab Smith for much of the 50's) - certainly more suited
> for the Henderson style swing than Mr Crawford - as would have Jo Jones.
> Agree on the reunion LP, too many soloists - get tired listening to a
> string of solos - do we really need the 1934 arrangements, would of
> loved to hear "Chinatown My Chinatown" for instance - or "Somebody Loves
> Me", "Henderson Stomp" or maybe see what Hawkins would have done in 1958
> on "Strangers" - a personal favourite recording of mine by the 1932 band.
>  re: Waller, Waller was not as good of a singer or bandleader as Allen
> (but the 1929/30 Waller sides are very good jazz IMHO), even with the
> likes of a Cecil Scott, Chu Berry or Allen himself the records would not
> have been as good as Allen's, for except the more arranged titles on the
> big band sessions (could the terrific 1935 session really be seen as a
> Charlie Turner's band?) and perhaps some of the earliest sessions
> (Whitted, O'Brien and Coleman grace a session or two) - and listen how
> much better the 4 sides Sedric recorded for Vocalion without the
> commercial pressures ...
> ================
> Yves,
> I'm familiar with Walter Johnson's work with Henderson, but not his
> later stuff. I'm sure I have him with Tab Smith--will dig them out.
> Another suitable drummer I can think of would have been Bobby Donaldson,
> who hardly seems to register with critics or the listening public.
>
> I divide drummers into three main groups:
> 1. Pushing (Sid Catlett, Buddy Rich, Specs Powell).
> 2. Following (many "modern" ones like Art Blakey, Art Taylor, Dennis
> Charles & Max Roach).
> 3. Neither--just on the beat, like Crawford and Mel Lewis--they neither
> help nor hinder.
>
> Waller's singing (like Calloway's) is down to personal taste. His
> defenders argue that he treated poor material with the contempt it
> deserved. Unfortunately he often treated the better material in the same
> way! As I recall, Sedric played some excellent clarinet on one of those
> 1944-45 private recordings with Don Byas, issued on Caete LP-2.
>
>      Julian Vein
>
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