[78-L] Pre-bop [was Five Faves]

[Milan P Milovanovic]

I think he played solos in Chick Webb's band, also.
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The only time I heard Jefferson solo was on a Cab Calloway recording of 
"Willow
Weep for Me"
which was issued on French Columbia(CBS,orange label).What I have of him 
with
Fletcher Hen-
erson contains no solos.He played nice alto.




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I will listen to it. Hilton Jefferson was one of the finest, but least
known, altoist of the period.
An excelent soloist when given the chance. In my opinion one of the top
saxophone players of the time.

Al Simmons

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>I thought about "New Orleans Shout".
>
> I'm sorry that there is no mention of matrix numbers in my CD issue, so I
> can give you personnel only:
> King Oliver, Dave Nelson, Jimmy Archey (tb), Glyn Paqe (cl, as), Hilton
> Jefferson (as), unknown (ts), Don Frey (p), unknown (g), Arthur Taylor
> (bnjo), Clinton Walter (tu), Fred Moore (d).
>
> Also, you can get it here: http://files.mail.ru/TM1IK2
>
> Mentioned solo is from 0:46 - 1:25
>
> Thanks for listening and comparing.
>
> Milan
>
>
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>
>> OK. I have all three titles from that date. Which one are you referring
>> to?
>> I'd like to give it a listen.
>> If you're right we have a real find.
>> One of them "Everybody Does It In Hawaii" was recorded twice.
>> First time on 12/30/29 Mx. 58338-1 and released on Vic V-38109
>> then again on 1/15/30 Mx 55338-4 and also released on Vic V-38109.
>> If this is the title you were referring to do we know which take I should
>> listen to? I have both.
>> Same strange thing on "Frankie and Johnny." Mx 58339-2-3 on 12/30/29 Vic
>> V-38109 and another listed as
>> Mx 58339 -4 on 1/15/30 also on Victor V38109. although Rust indicates
>> that
>> there was no Mx 58339 "DESPITE THE LABEL"
>> Strange things were happening.
>> Or mebbe you mean the other title from 12/30/29 "New Orleans Shout" ?? Mx
>> 58340-1 Vic 23388
>> Let me know and I'll give it a spin. (another colloquialism from my
>> bottomless reservoir of Americana.)
>>
>> Al Simmons
>>
>>
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>> From: "Milan P Milovanovic" <milanpmilovanovic4 at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:58 AM
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>>
>>> To my ears, first bop solo played Hilton Jefferson or Glyn Paque (King
>>> Oliver's Band) Dec. 30, 1929.
>>>
>>> First rate alto solo, ahead of its time for about ten years.
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "Julian Vein" <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>
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>>> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:15 AM
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>>>
>>>
>>>> simmonssomer wrote:
>>>>> I have a 1942 line check of the Jay McCann band from the Savoy
>>>>> Ballroom.
>>>>> On "I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles" Charlie Parker blows an unmistakeable
>>>>> Be-bop solo for
>>>>> mebbe four choruses. It is not an experimental bit of beta blowing.
>>>>> It is a full fledged, finely burnished bop creation.. I don't know
>>>>> exactly
>>>>> what Diz was blowing in the summer of 1942 but
>>>>> it may be that Bird was there first with the most even if it was not
>>>>> under
>>>>> his own name.
>>>>> It's on LP only but still is one of my top five.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al Simmons
>>>> ==========
>>>> My copy on CD has bad wow which detracts seriously from enjoying the
>>>> performance.
>>>>
>>>> Try pianist Frank Smith's playing on the Jimmie Noone session at the
>>>> Yes
>>>> Yes Club, Chicago, July 17, 1941. Bud Powell before Bud Powell.
>>>>
>>>> Julian Vein
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