[78-L] 14" Pathe

[Michael Biel]

On 1/6/2011 3:39 PM, Erwin Kluwer wrote:
>   A famous case where the mastercylinder was damaged early on is Caruso's "Tu
> non mi vuoi piu bene": All disc copies, and all but the earliest cylinders,
> suffer from three or four loud knocks during the final top note - evidently
> someone badly scratched the master while making an early dub, and all
> subsequent transfers have the extra noise

That is right!  I've heard that.  I just didn't realize that it was 
recorded into the record and not just a defect of that copy -- but in my 
mind's ear it is at 160 RPM, the CDs have eliminated or suppressed 
then.  I remember them from the LPs that are downstairs.

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Michael Biel<mbiel at mbiel.com>  wrote:
>
>> That might be a good indicator of the speed of the Pathe master
>> cylinders.  Normal cylinders would be 160 RPM which would be two per
>> disc rev of 80 RPM.   I don't recall ever noticing a cyclicable sound on
>> a Pathe/Perfect disc that could be used like that.
>>
>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>>   On 1/6/2011 3:15 PM, Michael Shoshani wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 13:46 -0500, David Lennick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not to mention all the thumps and bumps from mechanical equipment and
>> people
>>>> walking around in the studio.
>>> I have a Pathe Actuelle with the hymn "Abide With Me" sung by a male
>>> quartet; at the very end of the record, right before the spiral-out, it
>>> has a steady rhythmic "thump thump thump thump", about four beats per
>>> second, for maybe five seconds.
>>>
>>> When I first acquired this record, as a youth, I thought maybe it was
>>> some crude early signal to the consumer that the record was over. Today
>>> I realize that it was probably noise from the cylinder player reaching
>>> the end of the record, carried through the pantograph onto the disc
>>> master.
>>>
>>> MS