[78-L] 14" Pathes.

[Philip Carli]

I have a 11 1/2" British Pathe from about 1914 of two highly abridged movements from the Tchaikovsky 6th (the first recs. of any part of the work) by the Pathe Symphony Orchestra, presumably under Lillian Bryant, and the speed at score pitch is 68 rpm -- honest.  I wondered because when I first got the disc I put it on at 90 and it was unrecognizeable gobbledygook, so I backed it down and down and down...I've never seen anything like it. I've been looking for the other disc of this set for years to compare as part of my work on Bryant.  Consistency wasn't a priority at Pathe, it appears...PC
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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:04 PM
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Subject: [78-L] 14" Pathes.

Hi!

As far as I remember, I think that Pathe recorded on to a master
cylinder and made copies using a pantograph. So, there were no metal
parts to wear out.

They made records from 8" up to 20", but the recording was identical.
The larger ones, as I remember, were supposed to be louder.

So, though I have a dozen or so of these monsters, mostly operatics,
I try to get smaller pressings.
I don't have the space!

I must have 200-300 Pathe discs...or more..

14" Pathes are usually centre start with, of-course, a vertical groove.
Default playing speed is 90rpm but, as with everyone else, speeds do vary.

Earl.


I have it in 3 versions: this American 14",  a 14" inside-start,
engraved-label pressed in Belgium, and a smaller
inside-start engraved label - all the same recording, as far as my
ears can tell.  I would guess the recording was 1912 or
before. The beauty of the Pathe system was that they could engrave
almost any size, speed or form from the same master
cylinders.  Which raises a question:  Does anyone know if they made
metal copies of the masters, and then 'dubbed' from
those?  Edison was doing that, prior to Gold-Moulded days.  Pathe
issued some old recordings in Actuelle (lateral) form, so
the masters must have lasted for many dubs.
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