[78-L] 14" Pathe

[neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com]

I recall from somewhere that there are not any known Pathe master 
cylinders in existence. Is this correct (or still correct)?

joe salerno


On 1/6/2011 12:41 PM, Erwin Kluwer wrote:
> no, master cylinders were pantographed directly on (wax) discs which were
> processed as any (conventional) orginal master recording.
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> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:20 PM, martha<MLK402 at verizon.net>  wrote:
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>>   I have it in 3 versions: this American 14",  a 14" inside-start,
>> engraved-label pressed in Belgium, and a smaller
>> inside-start engraved label - all the same recording, as far as my ears can
>> tell.  I would guess the recording was 1912 or
>> before. The beauty of the Pathe system was that they could engrave almost
>> any size, speed or form from the same master
>> cylinders.  Which raises a question:  Does anyone know if they made metal
>> copies of the masters, and then 'dubbed' from
>> those?  Edison was doing that, prior to Gold-Moulded days.  Pathe issued
>> some old recordings in Actuelle (lateral) form, so
>> the masters must have lasted for many dubs.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Glenn Longwell"<glongwell at snet.net>
>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>   Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] 14" Pathe
>>
>>
>> I should have pointed out that the record may have been released in 1915
>> for the US market but it was likely reissued. When
>> it was originally recorded I don't know.
>>
>> Glenn
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>> --- On Thu, 1/6/11, Glenn Longwell<glongwell at snet.net>  wrote:
>>
>> From: Glenn Longwell<glongwell at snet.net>
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] 14" Pathe
>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 12:12 PM
>>
>> My understanding of Pathe is that this would be outside start and from
>> 1915. I don't have any Pathe catalogs to confirm the
>> month it was released.
>>
>> If you have interest in these I recommend "Pathe Records and Phonographs in
>> America, 1914-1922" by George Copeland and
>> Ronald Dethlefson. I believe Ron still sells it through his website.
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>> --- On Thu, 1/6/11, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com<
>> neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> From: neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com<neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [78-L] 14" Pathe
>> To: "78-l"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 11:51 AM
>>
>> I have just acquired my first 14" Pathe, Daughter of the Regiment played
>> by the Republican Guard Band of France on 70043. Paper label, and
>> although I haven't played it yet, I am reasonably certain that it is out
>> side start.
>>
>> About when would this record have been recorded/made?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joe Salerno
>>
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