[78-L] Gene Autry Christmas records

[David Lennick]

Okay, scratch that entirely..haven't had my first cup of coffee yet. It's 
Autry's RUDOLPH that has the black label in Canada and a -V prefix following 
the number. Good vinyl, too..same stuff Sparton was using to press Columbia and 
Capitol LPs up here.

dl

On 1/2/2011 9:31 AM, David Lennick wrote:
> Just to add to the confusion, the kids (vinyl) issue of Frosty in Canada with
> the picture sleeve has a BLACK label! And I think it has the same number as the
> microphone issue but with a -V suffix. (Something like C-1400-V.)
>
> dl
>
> On 1/2/2011 1:14 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
>> On 1/2/2011 1:00 AM, DAVID BURNHAM wrote:
>>> Every copy I had of the Gene Autry records was on the red microphone label,
>>> although I've seen pictures of the yellow labels.
>>>
>>
>> Every copy of the Gene Autry christmas records I've had were on the
>> yellow kids label.  You haven't mentioned if you have U.S. pressings or
>> only Canadian.
>>>
>>> A couple of years ago I bought a CD which claimed to be the "Complete Columbia
>>> Christmas Recordings", by Gene Autry.
>>
>>
>> Oh no!!!!  Not another mystery CD!!
>>>     On this CD, "Frosty the Snowman" always
>>> bothered me - it just didn't sound right.  When you hear a song like this
>>> umpteen times every Christmas throughout your childhood every nuance - the
>>> rhythm of the words, the balance between the piccolo and the clarinet in the
>>> opening, etc. - become etched in your brain.  All of the other selections on
>>> this CD with which I was familiar sounded the same as I'd always heard them,
>>> (except I find "Here Comes Santa Claus" a bit duller than on the 78).  I just
>>> now listened to "Frosty" on the CD
>>
>> So prey tell, what is the discographical data of this CD.  Please.
>>> and the 78 side-by-side to see if there was
>>> something which described the difference.
>>
>> Is there a take number?
>>> They're obviously from the same
>>> recording session on June 12, 1950, the same musicians, arrangement and pickup
>>> but I finally found something which ensures that these are two different
>>> recordings:
>>
>> Why should you think that alternate takes weren't unusual?
>>
>>
>>
>>> on the 78 he sings "Weren't they surprised when before their
>>> eyes.....", and on the CD he sings "Were they surprised, before their
>>> eyes.....".
>>
>> This is a good way of determining the two takes.  In my memory the first
>> version sounds closer to the proper rhythm.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this version was ever released on 78 or did something happen
>>> to the master of the original version or did the crew who compiled the CD just
>>> grab the wrong tape off the shelf?
>>>
>>> db
>>
>> It's not unusual that alternate takes are issued.  Since this side has
>> probably been issued a dozen times, this might not be its debut.
>>
>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
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