[78-L] Pagliacci set on British Columbia

[David Lennick]

Sorry, Philip. I've heard the set and if you prefer idiosyncratic, fine. I 
transferred it and hoped I'd never have to listen to it again. As for the 
conductor, my error, it's Eugene Goossens Senior. I was looking at a photocopy 
of the album's liner and missed the "Snr". Why are you jumping down my throat 
over a legitimate opinion which have been echoed on this list? Good singers, 
bad concept. Opera in English was something considered a necessity at one point 
and may still have its defenders, but even you'd have to admit that it can 
sound pretty ludicrous.

dl

On 12/4/2010 9:54 PM, Philip Carli wrote:
> What a cheap dismissive comment. I have this set and the recent excellent CD transfer done in the UK and it's certainly idiosyncratic, but not  just unthinkingly "pretty awful". And which Goossens is it?  And which translation? And what's the history of the set? And why is it important (yes, it is)? I throw these out because I get annoyed at flip judgments.
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] Pagliacci set on British Columbia
>
> I've had this set..I may still have it (don't see it on the shelf) but I held
> onto the information. Matrix numbers are between WA 4999 and 5062. Features
> Heddle Nash, Miriam Licette, Dennis Noble, Frank Mullings and Harold Williams,
> conducted by Eugene Goossens, and as I recall it's pretty awful.
>
> dl
>
> On 12/4/2010 6:25 PM, Royal Pemberton wrote:
>> I wonder if they were any more or less consistent with that speed
>> specification compared with other labels of the time?  Somewhere in the
>> archives of 78-L one can find the exact matrix number at which UK Columbia's
>> standard speed became 78 (IIRC it was some time in 1927).
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Steven C. Barr<stevenc at interlinks.net>wrote:
>>
>>> From: "Glenn Longwell"<glongwell at snet.net>
>>>> I had someone write to me through my website asking if I was interested
>>> in
>>>> a 12 record set in a binder by the British National Opera Company
>>>> performing Pagliacci. He's located in the UK so shipping would be a bit
>>>> prohibitive to get it to me in the US. What struck me funny about the set
>>>> when I looked at the pictures was the speed was listed as 80rpm. Is this
>>>> indicative of a certain time period for British Columbias? I only have
>>> one
>>>> British Columbia of that label type in my collection and just looked at
>>>> it. Never noticed but it also says 80rpm.
>>> Anyone interested in this set?
>>>>
>>> During the early-mid twenties, British Columbia cited their speed as 80
>>> rpm!
>>>
>>> Steven C. Barr
>>>