[78-L] King Cole [was Walter Winchell]

[Dan Van Landingham]

I remember having a couple of Exclusive 78s.Somewhere,I have a Herb Jeffries 
Exclusive of "Basin Stre-
et Blues" and "These Foolish Things" in which Jeffries sings an entirely 
diffrent set of lyrics.A former Hol-
lywood drummer I knew,one Nick Pelico,claimed to have cut some records for them 
under his own name sometime in the '40s.I remember the Class label but I can't 
recall any of those who recorded for it.
That was in the late '50s.They were rock and roll records as I recall.The only 
other Exclusive 78 label I
remember seeing was in a Red label a la the Joe Davis label.That was years ago.




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From: "david.diehl at hensteeth.com" <david.diehl at hensteeth.com>
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Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 9:38:52 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] King Cole [was Walter Winchell]

The Rene brothers were New Orleans creoles who moved to California. Exclusive 
was their primary label, originally used to exploit their own compositions in 
the late 1930's. Ammor was a side bet which probably included other investors. 
There is an ad in Variety from mid-1940 which shows a New York address and all 
issues through 109 IIRC. That seems to be the end of the Ammor story.
AMO matrices are C.P.MacGregor recordings. This AM/AMO mx. series dates back to 
the mid-1930's, Ammor was just one of many transient clients and the similarity 
of the letter prefix to the label name is purely coincidental.
DJD
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-----Original Message-----
From: Han Enderman [mailto:jcenderman at solcon.nl]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 05:48 PM
To: '78-L'
Subject: [78-L] King Cole [was Walter Winchell]

Ammor, replaced by Excelsior & Exclusive, were labels of Californian (black) 
brothers Leon & Otis Rene. A later label is Class.Look at the many Leon Rene 
compostions on these labels.The small & rare Ammor label was the first (& is 
listed by Ty).I assume that AMO prefixes are from the time this label 
existed.The Coles on Ammor are credited to King Cole, and not to the 
Trio.Excelsior 102-103 (coupled) - recd in Oct 1942 - is on Cap 139.Then Ammor 
did not record anymore, though some issues may have been still available.Han 
Enderman===>>> On 11/24/2010 8:54 PM, Steven wrote:> From: David Lennick>> Savoy 
also had two early King Cole sides which it acquired from Varsity>> which> 
acquired them from Ammor.>>> The provenance of those KC3 sides is hopelessly 
complicated...! Cole, living> on the west coast, seems to have cut them for the 
little-known (and> failing?!)> Ammor label (Californian!).When Cole's Decca 
sides became "hits," any> number of labels reissued his pre-WWII sides (inc
luding a number of> transcription sides?!).True, although the one transcription 
company involved was D&S and they seem to have issued their recordings 
commercially as 78s and simultaneously to radio stations as transcriptions. I've 
seen other examples from them.>> This was the VERY tail end of an era when 
labels signed artists to> "exclusive"> contracts whenever possible. Many 
well-known artists chose to continue as> independents...earning a fixed (and 
often low!) sum per issued recording!>In Cole's case, he was signed to Capitol 
during the ban and the label was so anxious to get something out by the Trio, 
they bought a couple of masters that had been recorded for Excelsior in 1942. 
Some of Cole's Excelsior sides have AMO matrix numbers, so Ammor may still have 
been on the scene in 1943..or 
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