[78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)

[Don Chichester]

I was using a Concord open reel video recorder about that time.  I discovered that if you inverted the reel andd played it (now backward) it would play the tape backward, also, with fine fidelity.
 
Don
 
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:50:52 -0500
> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)
> 
> There was also a machine that used open reel quarter inch tape in the late 70s. 
> I only saw one in home use..anyone know what it was? Seems to me it would 
> record for less than a half hour.
> 
> dl
> 
> On 11/17/2010 10:11 AM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
> > I believe that would be a 1/2" OR video tape. I remember using one once
> > when I had a teaching job to record myself for self evaluation. Video is
> > wonderfu for that. That machine was rather old I believe, because that
> > would have been '77 or '78, when U-matic was well established. But small
> > colleges don't buy expensive new equipment when what they have still
> > work well.
> >
> > Perhaps you should start transferring all those old VHS to DVD.
> >
> > joe salerno
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/16/2010 6:35 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> >> My high school in Deer Park Texas had a Sony U--Matic recorder as well as a half
> >> inch wide (maybe one inch wide) reel to reel video recorder that used 7 inch
> >> reels for it's tapes. It was there when I graduated in 1978. The U-Matic&
> >> sometimes the reel to reel machine were used to record programs for later
> >> viewing during class time via the closed circuit TV syatem.
> >>
> >> Oh& I'd love to get a copy on a DVD-R of that CBS "When TV Was Young" program!!
> >> Perhaps Mike B could make one for me? Or even an SP speed VHS tape copy would
> >> do.
> >>
> >> In 1979 I was in college& the library let me order titles of educational stuff
> >> on U-matic which I copied (in the library with an RCA VJP 900 dockable recorder
> >> with the tuner timer unit left at home) to SP speed VHS tapes. Several Nova
> >> programs were copied as well as a Beach Boys concert& other stuff. I still have
> >> those copied tapes after all these years......
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Michael Biel<mbiel at mbiel.com>
> >> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 5:58:48 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)
> >>
> >> From: Randy Watts<rew1014 at yahoo.com>
> >>> I don't know when broadcasters stopped airing kinescopes, but they were
> >>> still being made into the 1970s. A film collector I used to know owned
> >>> black and white kines of two early "All in the Family" episodes. Perhaps
> >>> kinescopes retained a practical value in the days before videocassettes
> >>> when reference copies were required. A 16mm print of a television show
> >>> would have been easier, and more portable, to deal with than the same
> >>> show on videotape. Randy
> >>
> >> By the mid-70s the 3/4-inch U-matic was everywhere in every TV execs
> >> office, so the kine was obsolete for checking purposes. There may still
> >> have been a market in the educational film library field, such as McGraw
> >> Hill Young America Films which included a lot of CBS documentaries in
> >> their catalog.
> >>
> >> The 1975 CBS program "When TV Was Young" has a great opening sequence
> >> with Charles Kurault in a videotape room with a quad machine. He
> >> explains that he is the recorded Kurault because he is home watching
> >> this like you are. Then they remove the color because most of the shows
> >> to be discussed were in B&W. Then he walks over to a Kinescope Film
> >> Recorder and we see him via a kine! It very well might have been the
> >> last time that kine recorder was used!!! The scene continues with him
> >> walking thru a huge warehouse of kines. The rest of the show is pretty
> >> good, too, the best analysis and summary of the years of live TV, much
> >> better than the anniversary shows the following two years. There is a
> >> masterful analysis of the camera angles and blocking of one of the
> >> scenes of Requiem For A Heavyweight. I used to show it in broadcast
> >> history class every year.
> >>
> >> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 11/15/10, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Kines existed later than we might
> >>> think. I can remember watching Ernie Kovacs
> >>> on (most likely) Channel 7 in Buffalo in the early 60s and
> >>> the quality was
> >>> horrible..it was still coming to them on kinescope. And the
> >>> CBC was late to get
> >>> videotape..Ed Sullivan taped a special piece to run on the
> >>> Wayne& Shuster show
> >>> up here, after their early successes on his show, and sent
> >>> it to Toronto (my
> >>> mother may actually have been the mule). The Corpse had to
> >>> find somebody to
> >>> transfer it to FILLUM so they could run it live. Needless
> >>> to say, it looked awful.
> >>>
> >>> Hey, I regularly write about things I know nothing about.
> >>>
> >>> dl
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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