[78-L] Freddy or... r

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sun Nov 7 19:34:34 PST 2010


Russ Morgan also made one record I could stand listening to..Eli Green's Cake Walk.

dl

On 11/7/2010 6:48 PM, Taylor Bowie wrote:
> Yes,  there is plenty of good jazz to be had with Welk as well,  esp. the
> 1955 -65 era.
>
> Seriously,  if it's good....it's good.  Who cares who it is?  As Sean Miller
> knows,  I even managed to give Vaughn De Leath another chance,  and I'm glad
> I did!
>
> Taylor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Lennick"<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Freddy or... r
>
>
>> There are good jazz musicians to be found on some Lawrence Welk records
>> too.
>> Still, I'll listen to van Eps elsewhere. Even extra strength Gravol
>> wouldn't be
>> an inducement.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 11/7/2010 6:37 PM, Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>> Prof. Lennick,  pop a couple of Tums to get your stomach under control,
>>> and
>>> discard your prejudice...as I said,  there is plenty of fine jazz to be
>>> found on Martin records.  Check out their ARC version of Here You Come
>>> With
>>> Love (as Hotel Bossert Orch) for great guitar work  by George Van Eps,
>>> nice
>>> piano from Terry Shand,  fine trumpet,  etc.
>>>
>>> The Van Eps Dance Orchestra on ARC of Neighbors is an outstanding hot
>>> dance
>>> side.
>>>
>>> Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Lennick"<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 1:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Freddy or... r
>>>
>>>
>>>> All this fuss over a band I try and avoid as much as possible. Yes he
>>>> did
>>>> a few
>>>> cute numbers, but that whole "hotel orchestra" sound just makes me
>>>> nauseous.
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2010 4:42 PM, Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>>>> Mal,  I am one of those who "actually has the 78rpm records" and as I'd
>>>>> mentioned before,  none of the pre-war Brunswicks or Columbias say
>>>>> anything
>>>>> other than "Freddy" with a "y."
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have very many Bluebirds or Victors,  but all of the ones I
>>>>> have
>>>>> also say "Freddy."   The two latest Victors I have are 20-3324 and
>>>>> 20-3841...both say "Freddy."
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems odd that there would be an inconsistency about the spelling.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW although Voc 2643 does give label credit to "Fred Stone" there are
>>>>> other
>>>>> Vocalions  by Martin which are credited to "Freddie Stone."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Taylor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Malcolm Rockwell"<malcolm at 78data.com>
>>>>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 1:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Freddy or... r
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alright... RayK says all of his are "Freddy" and Julian says all his
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> as "Freddie."
>>>>>> I'M CONFUSED!
>>>>>> Martin recorded 5 records (4 issues and one test) that can be
>>>>>> considered
>>>>>> Hawaiian, mostly by title.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) "My Little Grass Shack in Kealakekua, Hawaii" on Vo 2643 (which is
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> by Fred Stone ahO), De F 3909 (UK) and Winner W 99 (UK) (as by Sleepy
>>>>>> Hall and His Collegians);
>>>>>> 2) "Down Where The Trade Winds Blow" on Br 8045, Co FB 2013 (UK) and
>>>>>> Regal Zonophone G 23392 (Aus);
>>>>>> 3) "Sand" on BB B-10567;
>>>>>> 4) "Blue Hawaiian Rose" on Vi 20-2709; and
>>>>>> 5) The test is "Princess Poo-Poo-Ly Has Plenty Pa-Pa-Ya", mx
>>>>>> 042288-1-2,
>>>>>> rec. in Hollywood on Dec. 11, 1939.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Julian and Ray, and anyone else who actually has the 78rpm records,
>>>>>> can let me know which artist credits are for Freddy and which are for
>>>>>> Freddie that would be wonderful, and I can bring the Martin entries in
>>>>>> the Hawaiian discog up to date.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Mal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *******
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/7/2010 10:37 AM, Julian Vein wrote:
>>>>>>> Malcolm Rockwell wrote:
>>>>>>>> Which reminds me, Rust spells Freddie Martin's name consistently as
>>>>>>>> Freddie in ADBD and Johnson/Shirley spell it as Freddy in their ADB.
>>>>>>>> I've always thought it was Freddie. The one record I have by him is
>>>>>>>> Vi
>>>>>>>> 20-2709 and the label says Freddie. Who is correct? Are there label
>>>>>>>> instances of both spellings?
>>>>>>>> Mal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *******
>>>>>>> My Martins are spelt Freddie. For many years trumpeter Sterling
>>>>>>> Bose's
>>>>>>> name was spelt with and E, until Richard Sudhalter changed it to
>>>>>>> Stirling in his book on white jazz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           Julian Vein


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