[78-L] Sonora pressing Victors (was New records in the jukebox)

[david.diehl at hensteeth.com]

Counterfeiting was a big problem in the 1940's but it typically victimized the independent labels that had limited distribution. Anyone in the industry at the time would have recognized the origins of this disc. Under-reporting on royalty statements to publishers was a widespread practise and this may have been a device to obscure the paper trail from outsiders. (The titles are Hora Staccato and On the Santa Claus Express by Freddy Martin)
DJD

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From: Bill McClung [mailto:bmcclung78 at gmail.com]
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Here's an really alternate explanation. Is it a bootleg?

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:16 PM,  wrote:> Listmember Rodger Holtin and I were perusing the dregs of his collection.> His copy Victor 20-2476 had an odd, un-Victorish ring around the center> hole. The surface had a severe case of shellacne. The telling point was the> isue number impressed in the runout; not the usual large, shallow RCA> typeface at all but the tiny, deep, sans-serif used by Sonora.> Alternative explanations invited (no, it's not a Grey Gull).> DJD>> Visit the Blue Pages: the Encyclopedic Guide to 78 RPM Party Records> http://www.hensteeth.com> -----Original Message-----> From: David Lennick [mailto:dlennick at sympatico.ca]> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2010 10:08 PM> To: '78-L Mail List'> Subject: Re: [78-L] New records in the jukebox>> What's this about Sonora pressing Victors? Is this the reason for the weird> brownish-grayish shellac on some pressings around 1947 (the stuff even has> its own unique odor, and I think the remnants of it were sold to Sparton)?On> the other hand, Varsity discs pressed by Columbia during the brief late 40s> "Harmony" period are .. well, unfortunately, they're usually polkas.dlOn> 11/2/2010 11:01 PM, david.diehl at hensteeth.com wrote:>> Speaking of> Varsity,did Obie start the Wright Record Company label?> Yes, he teamed up> with the owners of the faltering Sonora pressing plant while he was still> working at RCA. A Sonora-pressed Victor is not a thing of beauty I assure> you. Oberstein left Victor effective June 1, 1948 and the revived Varsity> was on the market in July. During the Korean War there was a revival of the> O.P.A ceiling price structure and he brought out the Hit label launch a> higher-priced product.> DJD>> Visit the Blue Pages: the Encyclopedic Guide> to 78 RPM Party Records> h> ttp://www.hensteeth.com> -----Original Message-----> From: Dan Van> Landingham [mailto:danvanlandingham at yahoo.com]> Sent: Tuesday, November 2,> 2010 01:36 PM> To: '78-L Mail List'> Subject: Re: [78-L] New records in the> jukebox>> I just added a few tracks to mine via the RHJ website.I downloaded> about 15 tracks of Frankie Trumbauer's 1940 big band that recorded for> Obie's Varsity label.I wish I knew more about Trumbauer's big band.Speaking> of Varsity,did Obie start the Wright Record Company label?I havesome 1946> vintage Louis Prima Varsities("Saint Louis Blues"and "Chinatown,My> Chinatown")whichwere rather well recorded as opposed to his output on> Majestic.Come to think of it,I had a HIT 78also pressed by Wright.I'd like> to find the personnel for Traumbauer's band.George T. Simon brieflymentioned> it in his book "The Big Bands" from 1966.Apparently,Trumbauer changed his> name brieflyto "Trombar".Some of the tracks I downloaded were swing versions> of the marches I played in junior> high and high school like "National Emblem March","Stars and Stripes> Forever" and "Semper Fidelis".One track which caught my ear was a number> called "Never Never Land Fantasy";it was quite good.The recording quality> left alot to> be desired.________________________________From: Jeff Lichtman> To: 78-l at 78online.comSent: Tue, November 2, 2010 10:06:05 AMSubject:> [78-L] New records in the jukeboxI have put a new set of records in my web> jukebox. This month's selections are a re-run from last February. The theme> is dance bands, and the performers are Paul Specht, Johnny Johnson, Fred> Waring, Jan Garber, Phil Ohman and Victor Arden, The High Hatters, Harry> Reser, Ben Selvin and Nat Shilkret.As always, the URL to the jukebox is in> my signature, below. - Jeff Lichtman jeff at swazoo.com Check out Swazoo> Koolak's Web Jukebox at http://swazoo.com/_______________________________________________78-L mailing> list78-L at klickitat.78online.comhttp://> klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l> _______________________________________________78-L mailing list78-L> @klickitat.78online.comhttp://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l>> _______________________________________________> 78-L mailing list>> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com>> http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l>>_______________________________________________78-L> mailing list78-L at klickitat.78online.comhttp://> klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l> _______________________________________________> 78-L mailing list> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com> http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l>_______________________________________________78-L mailing list78-L at klickitat.78online.comhttp://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l