[78-L] [Fwd: The Clef Label Icon]

[Dan Van Landingham]

I had a couple of those Granz produced albums one was a jam session that 
included Charlie Parker and
Johnny Hodges.As for Joe Guy,I lost track of him after 1947 around the time he 
was "married" to Billie
Holiday.Whar recordings I had of him were from around 1941.I had an album on 
Springboard which 

featured Charlie Christian and Dizzy Gillespie.The venue was supposed to be 
Minton's Playhouse but on
one track,I hear the m.c. say,rather clearly,"MON-ROES".I believe that 
particular track was from Mon-
roe's Uptown House.From what I recall,Gillespie was on trumpet;Nick Fenton 
played baritone sax and
string bass;Don Byas was on tenor but I can't recall who the drummer and pianist 
were.Monk may have
been the pianist.The original recordings were done by a man named Newman who 
recorded the perfor-
mances on paper discs.Those performances were issued in the '50s on 
Esoteric/Counterpoint.The songs
I recall hearing were "Stompin' at the Savoy","Guy's Got to Go" and "Star Dust" 
which featured Byas and
Gillespie.




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From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
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Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 3:11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] [Fwd: The Clef Label Icon]

Adding to Geoffrey's comment, I have a set of JATP with 3 different labels. And 
diverting the thread..anyone interested in David Stone Martin's covers should 
try and find the ones he did for classical albums on Disc, which are equally 
incredible, especially Romeo and Juliet (Prokofiev conducting).

dl

On 10/29/2010 4:08 PM, Julian Vein wrote:
> I'm forwarding this on because of the problems Geoffrey Wheeler refers to.
>
>        Julian Vein
>
> Sorry, gentlemen, thanks to my current server, I am not able to post
> items on 78-List, but I did want to respond to your questions about the
> icon on the Clef record label. I think it highly unlikely that it
> represents Dizzy Gillespie. Gillespie did not begin to record for Clef
> until around 1954, and was also issued on 78s on Clef and Norgran that
> were also issued in LP albums. The illustration for the icon was done by
> David Stone Martin. The first use I am aware of is as part of a cover
> illustration on 12-inch three-record Asch album 453. The trumpet-playing
> icon wears a red jacket. In the background is an abstract illustration
> of Carnegie Hall.
>
> The dark-red spine has the album title and Asch printed in gold. In the
> upper right corner of the front cover is “Stinson Records, produced by
> Norman Granz.” Title of the album is “Jazz at the Philharmonic (Vol.
> 1).” This is a somewhat typical Stinson hybrid: Two of the three records
> in my copy have Stinson labels; the third has an Asch label. I have
> another non-JATP Stinson album that has one Stinson label, one Asch
> label, and one Asch International label. The album contains multi-part
> performances of two tunes: “How High the Moon” and “Lady Be Good.”
> Trumpet players on the two performances are Howard McGhee and Joe Guy.
> The icon by itself appears on page 31 of a 48-page Asch-Disc catalog
> issued in 1946. The catalog is filled with David Stone Martin
> illustrations, some of which were later used for album-cover art. A
> later, undated “Disc Record List” does not list the album, but does list
> vol. 2 of the JATP series of album releases. The Asch album itself is
> listed on 78 Online Discographical Project but no date is given. It
> falls, however, within a block of recordings made in 1944. Album retail
> was $3.50 for three 12-inch records but my copy is price-marked $4.72.
> Best regards,
> Geoffrey
> ______________________________