[78-L] Victor number puzzlement

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Thu Oct 28 19:32:03 PDT 2010


On 10/28/2010 9:59 PM, Han Enderman wrote:
> Not everything in the 10-xxxx series is vocal.

Who said it was? Not I.

> The general theme seems "classical".
> Common are 10-1045 Tommy Dorsey: By The Sleepy Lagoon (Coates) / Melody,
> and 10-1127 Iturbi: Boogie Woogie Etude&  Blues (Morton Gould).
> I have Dorsey images with 4 different label types, so it was repeatedly repressed.

Neither of those is classical in my opinion and the Iturbi is pure garbage.
>
> It seems there is a 2nd subseries with 10-prefix, with nrs in the 10-3000s.
> The 21-xxxx series also starts low (21-0001 seen).

The Red Seal renumbering replaced the 4000 (mid price) and 500+ series which 
was into the 2000s at the time and started at 10-1000. That series was around 
10-15xx or 10-16xx by the early 50s. 10-3000 and up was indeed another series 
and I'm wondering if it was started in 1949 so it could parallel Red Seal 45s.
dl
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
>>>> Greetings from FixitLand!
>
> David Lennick wrote:
>
>> Well how thilly can you get? All sorts of "reissued by request" in
>> the 20-2000s
>> (which means they were reissued by request of the sales department
>> who had
>> nothing to flog, thanks to the AFM ban in 1948) so why go
>> backwards? Victor Red
>> Seals also introduced a 10-0000 series post-war, reissues of old
>> vocal records.
>
> What's more "thilly" than Victor starting nearly all their two-digit-
> prefix renumberings at some arbitrary point: 10-1000; 11-8000;
> 20-1500; 28-0400; 30-0800; 33-0500; 34-0700; etc. (I've not seen any
> of the 10-0000 reissue series you mention.)
>
> The 'Double-Feature' 45-0xxx series actually started at a sensible
> -0000, as did the 44-xxxx twin-sided jukebox series, while the RCA
> Victor "Bluebird Series" restarted at 30-0001 (not -0000? Whyzzat,
> RCA Victor?)
>
> (Whoever did the "requesting" for those reissues, I wish they'd
> specified the use of original masters instead of dubbing nearly
> everything...a very few of them were actually pressed up from
> original parts.)
>
> Take care,
> Joe
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