[78-L] Victor number puzzlement

[David Lennick]

The catalog didn't list any ethnicity with these, only the price and the purple 
labels.

dl

On 10/28/2010 3:24 PM, Han Enderman wrote:
> I know 2 Vic 38-xxxx series, but these were not Latin.
> 38-1000 series Jewish (prob. a small series)
> 38-3000 series Greek.
> Both only with double ring RCA Victor labels.
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
>>>>
> So they're ethnic issues that were still in print as "special order" items.
> Interesting that the twelve-inch purple label ethnics (38-xxxx) weren't shown
> in 1951.
>
> dl
>
> On 10/28/2010 11:04 AM, Han Enderman wrote:
>> I have images in the range 30000-30914. All scroll, with Orthophonic in a curved line
>> above Nipper.
>> All Latin, like Cuarteto Machin (for ex on 30000, 30619). Text on labels in Spanish.
>> Some Grabado en Europa. Labels look black.
>> There is also a scroll 37000 Latin series, which is much rarer. I have only
>> 4 images in range 37072-37673. Of these, 37658 is pres. a later pressing,
>> with double ring "Serie Internacional" label.
>> 37673 is by Mercedes Simone / con Orquesta.
>>
>> There is also a latin post-scroll black 38000 series.
>> A later pressing of RCA Vic 38629 looks dark blue and might be purple.
>> Maybe repressings in the 50s are on purple labels.
>>
>> There is a common Argentine 37000 series, which seems to have the same issues
>> (confirmed for 37072&   37246) and pres. is the orig. series.
>> Not known if everything was also issued in the US.
>> According to 'omar', the seller of (Ar) 37072, it was recd in 1931.
>> The Arg. 38000 series seems to be the continuation of the 37000 series and
>> is the source for the US 38000 series (in both, 38008 is by Francisco Lomuto).
>>
>> Now I see that the US 30000 series is same as the Arg. 30000 series (confirmed
>> for 30409).
>> The Arg. series is rather rare, and prob. the US series is the original.
>> There are also Brazil 30000&   37000 series
>> (only 30748 by Los Siboneyes&   37597 by Trio C. Ortiz seen).
>> For 30619 by Cuarteto Machin I have a rec. date of NY 29 Oct 1931.
>> Is this (or any others) in Spottswood?
>>
>> I have never seen a US 20-series below 20-1500 (Berigan in Album P-134 on
>> double ring Victor).
>> Earliest available Arg. 20- issue is 20-1502 by Berigan (Jelly-Roll Blues) in
>> Arg. album A-28 (side 3).
>> Actually the US issue is also 20-1502 but now it is side 5 in P-134.
>>
>> Han Enderman
>> ===
>>>>>
>> The RCA Victor Request Catalog (1951) has a price list at the back and it lists
>> a couple of numbering series I've never seen before..30000 and up (ten-inch
>> purple label) and 37000 and up (10 inch purple label). Qu'est'ce que c'est?
>> Also, it lists the post 1942 ten-inch popular black label series as "20-1400
>> and up". Thought it started at 20-1500. Did they go back and use some lower
>> numbers for a special series at one point?
>>
>> dl
>> <<<
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