[78-L] New York records?

Malcolm Rockwell malcolm at 78data.com
Fri Jul 16 10:01:07 PDT 2010


Unfortunately by what is written it is only implied that the 1931 
session was done in New York.
I wonder what Spottswood's ethnic discography has to say? Lessee...
He only gives the 1918 session for Victor, "Maamme - National Hymn" 
under the name Soittokunta Louhi (Louhi's Band)  on Vi 72203 (which has 
32 bandmembers playing on it!) and a test of  "Pois Rannoilta Suomen". 
There's no mention of the second title being on the flip side. My 
conclusion is that "Maame" may actually be a single sided disc.
No mention of the 1931 New York Records session.
Mal

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On 7/16/2010 2:06 AM, Han Enderman wrote:
> How wonderful are our modern times..!
>
> Googled 'The Louhi Band' [Finnish-American !] and found an article in the
> Middle States Geographer, 2001, 34:26-37
> (http://geographyplanning.buffalostate.edu/MSG%202001/4_Roinila.pdf)
> titled:
> HISTORY, ACHIEVEMENTS AND REMEMBRANCE OF THE LOUHI BAND OF MONESSEN, PENNSYLVANIA
>
> It refers to recordings:
>
> "In 1917, the Louhi Band won first prize in a contest between seven regional bands in Belle Vernon, PA.
> The prize was $100 and respect and honor worth much more than money to the Finns. In the Finnish-American press,
> there were complaints about the lack of Finnish people in the audience during Louhi's public concerts!
> The band made many trips and performed in Ohio, West Virginia and Pennsylvania (Amerikan Suometar, 1920).
> (...)
> In 1918, the Louhi Band performed at the All-Nations Liberty Bond Parade in New York City.
> While in New York City, the band cut their first record of Finnish compositions.
> On the Victor label, the first side was Maamme Laula and the flip was Pois Rannoilta Suomen.
> (...)
> During the tenure of Lauri (Louis) Koski, the Louhi Band made a second recording, this
> time for the New York Phonograph Recording Company in 1931.
> The first side featured E Pluribus Unum, an original composition by Koski.
> The flip side was Kesapaiva Kangsalla, which Koski had arranged.
> I have not been able to obtain this record or the music since the Library of Congress does not have this in their archives."
>
> The label of 761-A now can be decifered as "Monessen, Pa. / Louis Koski, Conductor"
> Han Enderman
>
> ===
>
>    
>>>>   Mal sent me ebay-images of:
>>>>          
> 122-A Howard E. Schilling
> 526-A Franklin Post No.1 Band / American Legion, Columbus, Ohio
> 764-A The Louhi Band, (...?), Pa. [unreadable]
> 801-A J.L. Hudson Co. Concert Band, Detroit.
>
> Quite interesting, 122-A has a different label type, with the label name
> in capitals of the same size, whereas letters N&  Y enlarged on the other issues.
>
> Regrettably the reverse of Ben Rader&  His Missouri Athletic Ass'n Orch.'s
> "Sugar Foot Stomp" is unknown. Maybe they recorded a sweet piece&  a hot tune.
> Rust gives New York as recording place, but this now seems doubtful
> (after all, the NYRL were also located in Wisconsin).
> Several issues refer to Ohio and Detroit.
> Visually/numerically there is no connection with Electric Recording Labs, NYC.
>
> Any other issues known?
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
>    
>>>> Is there any info out there on the New York label? Sutton&  Nauck's
>>>>          
> entry says issued in the 1920s and that's about it. The one I've seen is
> maroon with two rings around the outside of the label and the type style
> looks vaguely OKeh-like. Credited to the New York Phonograph Recording Co.
> Mal
> ---
> ARLIE shows 120-A, which has a single ring !
> I have a few more label images, and these have double rings.
>
> 129-B is BEN RADER a/h Orch.: Sugar Foot Stomp ! This is listed in Rust-JR-6 as
>
> c. Jan 1926.
> 150 MISSOURI PACIFIC DIAMOND JUBILEE 4 (in BGR as unk. date).
> 779 CARNES-RICHARDS ORCH. - Is this in the new ADBD?
> 795 RAYEN SCHOOL BAND/GLEE CLUBS, Ohio.
> 805 SACRED HEART SEMINARY BAND, Detroit
>
> At least the 700/800 series looks like custom recordings.
> The font used in the 100 series resembles OK, which also used a narrow font on
>
> some printings.
>
> Which issue is known to you, Mal?
> If you have image(s), can you send these?
>
> Han Enderman
> ---
> I picked up the four attachments included over the years from eBay.
> I had thought that New York may have been a client label of Gennett, but now I think
>
> not.
> Thanks for your input.
> Mal
> - 122-A
> - 526-A
> - 764-A
> - 801-A
> ---
> I have 2 or 3 (at least) of these...but NO idea where. All that
> I have seen are private recordings, usually of people/groups in north-
> eastern Ohio per the credits. I have always felt these relate to
> "The Electric Recording Company" of 1924-25, which also cut a lot of
> "private" records...?!
>
> Steven C. Barr
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