[78-L] Victor M-572

[Michael Biel]

From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> WERM lists it as M 572 (not DM! but it probably should have been)

By the mid-40s, and even in the war years, Victor seems to be issuing
all their new Red Seal albums only in DM sequence.  I came across the
supplements where the DMs seem to start, somewhere around 1939, but it
took a while before the DMs were not retroactive but were issued at the
same time as the M.  And that is when the AM seems to have disappeared,
first from new issues, and then completely when the war began.  

> and the new numbers are 10-0005/8, with a filler added for the 8th side 
> (Campos: Laura y Georgina). I've seen very few 10-0000s, mostly reissues
> of Tito Schipa as I recall. I don't see it in the 1948 catalog either
> so that reissue can't have been around for long.

> The "something else" I was thinking of was the Sonata for Piano 4-hands
> played by Hindemith and Sanroma, 15822 and 2040 in M-637.  dl

Wait, don't tell me, let me guess.  It is 15822 which is ALWAYS broken! 
Why didn't ANY company figure out a suitable oversized sleeve for the
10-inch discs that would protect the 12?

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
 
> From: mbiel at mbiel.com  (corrected)
> 
> According to the 1939-40 Victor Record Catalog, the disc numbers for
> M-572 are 1987 thru 1990-S, and the disc numbers for AM-572 are 1991
> thru 1994-S. The -S means that the final disc is single sided, which is
> probably the "something else" Lennick was thinking of. AM-572 was not
> in the 1940-41 catalog and neither are in the large size blue or red
> wartime catalogs. If a DM version was ever issued, and that might be
> what WERM lists, it would have MUCH later disc numbers than the M and AM
> versions. This reminds me to remind all of you (ESPECIALLY the NY Viola
> Society) that the album prefixes MEAN SOMETHING. The disc numbers are
> ALWAYS different on the different Victor coupling formats. 
> 
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > Obviously I was thinking of something else when I suggested a 10" and
> > a 12" in the same album then dl
> 
> From: chris.1picc at yahoo.co.uk
> >> I'll try again; the website of the NY Viola Society gives 1991/4
> >> Chris
> 
> rom: Mike Harkin <xxm.harkin at yahoo.com>
> >>> Can anyone tell me, please, the original issued sc nos. for this
> >>> [Hindemith Viola Sonata #3, Sanroma/composer]? Probably 2000 series,
> >>> based on ten-inch nos. in nearby sets.
> >>> WERM gives nos. in 10-xxxx series, which I think is a postwar
> >>> reissue/renumbering, and Gram Shops & David Hall Intl give only
> >>> set no., no disc nos. at all. Mike in Plovdiv 
> 
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