[78-L] FW: (no subject)

[fnarf at comcast.net]

There have always been grifters and con artists. We expect convenience, but we're not willing to take common-sense precautions. If you give your credit card number and security code up to a stranger who calls you on the telephone, just because he asks for it, well, I won't say you deserve to get robbed but I will say that you're not taking ordinary precautions.

That said, most credit card fraud is still done the old-fashioned way, by scavenging your number from the charge slip at a store or restaurant. Any time you use one of those old-fashioned ka-CHUNK credit card machines, the kind that takes a carbon impression from your card, your number is on display on that slip of paper. In addition, a clerk or waiter can easily jot down the number when he has your card in the back room. 

I just read a fascinating book about an unrepentant book thief who stole hundreds of card numbers from his time working in the San Francisco branch of Sak's Fifth Avenue. He worked in the credit account department, setting up new accounts. It was the perfect crime for him, since he would use the numbers to buy rare books (worth thousands of dollars apiece) many months after he first saw the card number; there was no way to trace them back to Sak's. He eventually got caught, and served a short sentence (not his first), and is believed to still be at it in Canada now.



----- Original Message -----
From: "simmonssomer" <simmonssomer at comcast.net>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:04:43 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [78-L] FW: (no subject)

I hate to start a polemic here but dammit....what is going on in this 
country?
It seems we have more thieves and hacking criminals than any  law abiding 
society can sustain.
I personally have been fighting the after effects of identity theft for the 
past three months.
The people who run those operations are  sophisticated and organized and are 
perverting a normal way of life.
The credit card companies and banks don't really care. They do not want 
anything to interfere with their ability to flood the country
with credit card debt.
It has become a free-for-all and nobody gives a sh-t.
And that's the troof.

Al S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] FW: (no subject)


>
> Scary..amazingly simple..why didn't I think of it? As it is, even 
> legitimate credit cards transactions can bite you where you don't expect 
> it, like paying at the pump for gasoline..you're automatically assumed to 
> be purchasing $100 worth even if you only buy $10, and this phantom charge 
> stays on your card for a couple of days and can push you over your limit 
> (the answer is to go and pay inside).
>
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>
> dl
>
>> From: soundthink at live.com
>> To: arsclist at loc.gov; 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:31:38 -0700
>> Subject: [78-L] FW: (no subject)
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>> Just a warning for those staying in the hotel at ARSC.
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>> Hotel Scam
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>> This is kinda scary if only because of how simple it is. Reading this,
>> we could have been caught. I'll bet this works all too
>> Often.
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>> You arrive at your hotel and check in at the front desk. When checking
>> in, you give the front desk your credit card (for all the Charges for 
>> your
>> room).
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>> You get to your room and settle in.
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>> Someone calls the front desk and asked for (example) Room 620 (which 
>> happens
>> to be your room). Your phone rings in your room.. You answer
>> and the person on the other end says the following, 'This is the front 
>> desk".
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>> When checking in, we came cross a problem with your charge card 
>> information. Please
>> re-read me your credit card number and verify the last 3 digits Numbers 
>> at
>> the reverse side of your charge card.'
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>> Not thinking anything you might give this person your information, since 
>> the
>> call seems to come from the front desk. But actually, it is a scam
>> of Someone calling from outside the hotel/front desk.
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>> They ask for a random room number. Then, ask you for credit card 
>> information
>> and address information. Sounding so professional that you do think you
>> are talking to the front desk.
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>> If you ever encounter this problem on your vacation, tell the caller that 
>> you
>> will be down at the front desk to clear up any problems. Then, go to the 
>> front
>> desk and ask if there was a problem.
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>> If there was none, inform the manager of the hotel that someone called
>> to scam you of your credit card information acting like a front desk 
>> employee.
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>> This was sent by someone who has been duped......and is still clearing up 
>> the
>> mess....
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>> P.S. Please everyone, help spread the word by forwarding this email to 
>> everyone
>> you know. Who knows, you might just help someone avoid a nasty 
>> experience.
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