[78-L] National Records

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Mon Apr 5 14:58:27 PDT 2010


The reissue on Savoy LP was from noisy lacquers. There was also a 45 on Savoy which was from quiet sources but had reverb, and prematurely faded the end of side 1. I think we used it anyway, for a Living Era CD (probably "Crazy Guys").

 

dl
 
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:02:20 +0100
> From: ampex354 at gmail.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] National Records
> 
> They likely sound more or less like the copy I posted on YouTube....
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:00 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:
> 
> >
> > Sorry 'bout that. As noted, Nationals varied greatly..I have a Raymond
> > Scott that is oversize, like from the old Columbia days. And I've never
> > found a quiet copy of "Open The Door Richard".
> >
> >
> >
> > dl
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:58:03 +0100
> > > From: ampex354 at gmail.com
> > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] National Records
> > >
> > > Only 'Baby, baby....' was a shellac copy.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:50 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Don't ya love off-round records? That happened a lot with early vinyl
> > > > pressings.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > dl
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:46:50 +0100
> > > > > From: ampex354 at gmail.com
> > > > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] National Records
> > > > >
> > > > > I have Charlie Ventura's 'Pina colada' on a vinyl National
> > 78....rather
> > > > > hazy, smoky looking vinyl. I concur some of the Nationals I have are
> > > > among
> > > > > the most poorly-pressed 78s I have. Do any of you have Ventura's
> > 'Baby,
> > > > > baby, all the time' on National? My dad's copy is the worst in that
> > > > > apparently when the metal was separated from the lacquer, the metal
> > was
> > > > > stretched as it was peeled away, so it's eccentric but not in the
> > usual
> > > > > off-centre sense--the wowing is twice per revolution!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:42 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suspect that some later Nationals were pressed by Mercury, with
> > whom
> > > > they
> > > > > > had a link in ownership (plus, Mercury took over Eileen Barton's
> > "Baked
> > > > a
> > > > > > Cake" when it turned out to be too big for National to handle).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dl
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
> > > > > > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:10:37 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] National Records
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok, I have to chime in in defense of the uber-commercial side of
> > Mr.
> > > > B.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think his MGM record of "I Apologize" with the big Pete Rugolo
> > orch
> > > > > > behind
> > > > > > > him is one of the great vocal records of all time. Every time I
> > hear
> > > > that
> > > > > > > oboe intro I get ready for a real treat!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No comment on Mr. B rolled collars as I usually wear t shirts....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aren't some of the Nationals pressed on some sort of vinyl...I
> > seem
> > > > to
> > > > > > > recall that I have one or two like that, in addition to the ones
> > > > pressed
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the usual combination of metal shavings and dirt.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > T
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Geoffrey Wheeler" <dialjazz at verizon.net>
> > > > > > > To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:59 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [78-L] National Records
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Biel says: “I assume your path must have crossed Martin
> > Williams
> > > > > > > once in a while.
> > > > > > > Since you are still among the living, I also assume that Martin
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > > > > ever catch wind of your disdain for Sarah Vaughn.”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I owe my thanks to buckler and sword and a head start. Last night
> > > > while
> > > > > > > the 78-L exchange on Eckstine was in progress, I went to YouTube
> > and
> > > > > > > played part of “Everything I have is Yours.” I next hit the
> > button on
> > > > > > > “Prisoner of Love.” I gagged at the sound and memory of both. The
> > > > only
> > > > > > > thing I found interesting about the early ’50s Eckstine was his
> > “Mr.
> > > > B
> > > > > > > High-Roll Collar” shirt Symphony Sid used to advertise on his
> > Boston
> > > > > > > radio show. Having never seen one, I tried to imagine what this
> > > > > > > improbable sounding shirt looked like.
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