in case anyone is interested I don't know what I am looking at but this one seems to be in better condition than many seen on Ebu. Kinda reminds me of the one Mike Biel brought to the ARSC Conference a few years back. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220583715975&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 joe salerno