[78-L] National Records

Royal Pemberton ampex354 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 5 13:58:03 PDT 2010


Only 'Baby, baby....' was a shellac copy.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:50 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

>
> Don't ya love off-round records? That happened a lot with early vinyl
> pressings.
>
>
>
> dl
>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:46:50 +0100
> > From: ampex354 at gmail.com
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] National Records
> >
> > I have Charlie Ventura's 'Pina colada' on a vinyl National 78....rather
> > hazy, smoky looking vinyl. I concur some of the Nationals I have are
> among
> > the most poorly-pressed 78s I have. Do any of you have Ventura's 'Baby,
> > baby, all the time' on National? My dad's copy is the worst in that
> > apparently when the metal was separated from the lacquer, the metal was
> > stretched as it was peeled away, so it's eccentric but not in the usual
> > off-centre sense--the wowing is twice per revolution!
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:42 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I suspect that some later Nationals were pressed by Mercury, with whom
> they
> > > had a link in ownership (plus, Mercury took over Eileen Barton's "Baked
> a
> > > Cake" when it turned out to be too big for National to handle).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > dl
> > >
> > > > From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
> > > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:10:37 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] National Records
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I have to chime in in defense of the uber-commercial side of Mr.
> B.
> > > >
> > > > I think his MGM record of "I Apologize" with the big Pete Rugolo orch
> > > behind
> > > > him is one of the great vocal records of all time. Every time I hear
> that
> > > > oboe intro I get ready for a real treat!!
> > > >
> > > > No comment on Mr. B rolled collars as I usually wear t shirts....
> > > >
> > > > Aren't some of the Nationals pressed on some sort of vinyl...I seem
> to
> > > > recall that I have one or two like that, in addition to the ones
> pressed
> > > on
> > > > the usual combination of metal shavings and dirt.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Geoffrey Wheeler" <dialjazz at verizon.net>
> > > > To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:59 PM
> > > > Subject: [78-L] National Records
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Biel says: “I assume your path must have crossed Martin Williams
> > > > once in a while.
> > > > Since you are still among the living, I also assume that Martin did
> not
> > > > ever catch wind of your disdain for Sarah Vaughn.”
> > > >
> > > > I owe my thanks to buckler and sword and a head start. Last night
> while
> > > > the 78-L exchange on Eckstine was in progress, I went to YouTube and
> > > > played part of “Everything I have is Yours.” I next hit the button on
> > > > “Prisoner of Love.” I gagged at the sound and memory of both. The
> only
> > > > thing I found interesting about the early ’50s Eckstine was his “Mr.
> B
> > > > High-Roll Collar” shirt Symphony Sid used to advertise on his Boston
> > > > radio show. Having never seen one, I tried to imagine what this
> > > > improbable sounding shirt looked like.
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