[78-L] Lincoln Records

[Michael Biel]

neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
> Incidentally, this trove of records originally came from Illinois. 
> Perhaps the strategy behind the Lincoln label was to sell Cameos in this 
> part of the country by capitalizing on the name?
>
> joe salerno
>   
I doubt it considering Malcolm's mentioning of all the Hawaiian's he 
has, Randy S. saying that they are fairly common in Southern Calif, and 
Uncle Dave Lewis's claim that Lincoln was sold at Woolworths for 25 
cents while Cameo was sold at SS Kresge for the same 25 cents.  ARLIE 
indicates that in August 1925 Lincoln's price was REDUCED to 35 cents or 
three for a dollar.  Although ARLIE doesn't mention Woolworths, they do 
mention Henry Waterson as being an exec of the company, and he also had 
been responsible for Little Wonder (which happens to be the next 
entry).  Waterson's name does not appear in the Cameo listing, but they 
also mention a price reduction to 35 cents by 1925 from its original 50 
cents price at its 1922 introduction. Rust also cites Cameo's price as 
being originally 50 cent, and adds that the principal outlet for the 
label was Macy's!!!!!  I would like to know what Dave has seen for his 
store and price claims.  I would agree with him that it would seem like 
Lincoln should be the more frequently found of the two if it was the one 
sold at Woolworths while Cameo was at Kresge, but neither Rust nor ARLIE 
cite those stores.

The ARLIE Lincoln listing specifically states its disagreement with 
Rust's January 1924 introduction date because the trademark application 
of May 20, 1923 cites use since May 3,1923, there are indications in the 
journals of issues in 1923, and the January 15, 1924 Talking Machine 
World says Lincoln "has more than a little popularity through the middle 
and far west."  They also mention that it was exported to Australia 
where Gibsonia and Popular labels were pasted over!  Could there have 
been a stop-over in Hawaii??

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com 


David Lewis wrote:
> A subsidiary of Cameo, which sold at SS Kresge stores for 25 cents. Lincoln sold for 25 cents at Woolworth's. You would think the Lincolns would be more plentiful, but no. I have been collecting Cameos for close to 40 years and I have only a few Lincolns.
>
> Lincoln might be a source of alternate takes; I haven't observed any but I have found alternates from Cameo to Cameo. As far as I can tell, everything that came out on Lincoln also came out on Cameo at least until their absorption into ARC in 1928. Thereafter the Lincoln releases mirror the pool of ARC stuff until 1930 when both labels were dropped. 
>
> Uncle Dave Lewis
> uncledavelewis at hotmail.com
>