[78-L] Canada Domestic series catalog prefixes
David Lennick
dlennick at sympatico.ca
Mon Feb 15 16:56:55 PST 2010
All true..I was referring mainly to the post-1950 period when Capitol did no
Canadian recording and Compo still had the Apex and related labels. And yes,
the 26xxx system did appear as Decca for a while.
Capitol's numbering series was unique to Canada but contained no non-US
recordings in the 50s, and after 1954 followed the US numbering system.
dl
Steven C. Barr wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> As far as I know, Decca had no domestic Canadian recordings since they'd
>> had
>> the Apex label since 1919, the Starr label for Quebecois artists, Celtic
>> for
>> Maritimers (did they own or just distribute that label?). Capitol did no
>> Canadian recording till Paul White started the 6000 series (LP) and the 45
>> series you mention, around 1961.
>>
> NOT entirely correct! Compo had a 26xxx series; it was first used on Apex,
> where it ran to c.26160; then apparently on Brunswick 1932-34 (DL says
> he has one;I have never seen any...?!); then on Decca until 1943...when the
> Apex 262xx's were revived, to make it clear the Apexes (Apices?!) were
> recorded in Canada rather than in the US by "scab labour!"
>
> Capitol did use a separate catalog-number series for its Canadian
> pressings...!
> These started out as 7?-xxx in 1949 (IIRC)...then were prefix-less for ten
> or so issues in the very low 200's...and finally carried a "C-" prefix until
> somewhere in the mid-fifties. I've been trying to track down and purchase
> Canadian Capitol 78's from this "transition period" just so I can document
> the catalog-number variations...!
>
> As far as Columbia (C)...it is a but complicated...! Columbia(C) issued a
> *-P "Patriotic" series probably started in 1915(?)...there was no US
> counterpart because the US had not then entered WWI! Sides on this
> series were mostly British, although a VERY few were cut in NYC for
> Col(C), Around the same time, there existed a "R4xxx" series apparently
> issued only in Canada; again, most of the material was recorded in the
> UK, with a very few US sides...! I have also seen (and own, IIRC) a
> R24xx Canadian Columbia which had no US counterpart.
>
> In 1924, when Columbia changed to suffix-designated catalog numbers,
> a new series: 16xxx-D was used for "only in Canada" records. Both
> myself and Jim Litchfield are trying to document these records; we have
> all through c. 1608?-D, then a large gap and then a tiny bunch of
> 1612?-D issues.
>
> Sadly, Columbia documents (catalogs, supplements, usw.) rival
> hens' teeth for scarcity; Canadian Columbia impedimenta are
> much rarer...?!
>
> A BTW for all our listeners...ESPECIALLY "Canucks!!"
> If you own ANY 16xxx-D Columbias...ESPECIALLY if their
> catalog numbers fall into the above-defined "gaps"...PLEASE
> send us, or one of us, the data (number, artist(s), titles on
> both sides and matric numbers) on your record...!!
>
> Steven C. Barr
>> Columbia, on the other hand, did Canadian recording (as well as releasing
>> some
>> European masters for Canada only) from about 1954-55, which they'd never
>> done
>> as the satellite of US Columbia. They kept the 1+ series (around 2600 by
>> now)
>> and were still using it on 45s as late as 1971. There were also a couple
>> of
>> sides by folk singer Adam Timoon on late blue label Masterworks (10000
>> series)
>> and a few green label 8000s in the late 50s as well.
>>
>> Decca DID have some Canada-only releases from French Decca, as well as one
>> from
>> Parlophone (Victor Sylvester" Teddy Bears Picnic, which was a theme on CBC
>> radio) and I forget the numbering series for that one (single release). A
>> 6-digit number adding a "2" to an existing series, same as Herbert had
>> done
>> with HMV to create Canadian versions of similar Victor series.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> agp wrote:
>>> In the mention of Sparton releasing stuff from various US indies and
>>> my mention of a late Mexico only Columbia 78 from 1960, I also got to
>>> thinking about releases by the majors (for want of a better term)
>>> such as Capitol, Decca, RCA, and Columbia in Canada and their
>>> domestically signed output. I am particularly interested in the 1950
>>> output
>>>
>>> Now I know that in the 45 era, Capitol had the 72000 series, and
>>> Columbia had the C4- and E4- (for Epic) series. If not mistaken, the
>>> C4- series was the C- in the 78 era. Don't know about the E4- series
>>> though. I do know that RCA Victor had a 56- series, but I don't know
>>> if that was Quebec only. I have come across a label called RCA Victor
>>> Canada International that had a 57- series but I think that was after
>>> the 78 era.
>>>
>>> But what about Capitol and Decca. Did they have any series for local
>>> signings in the the late 78 era?
>>>
>>> T
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