[78-L] Record Stores

[Howard Hoffmaster]

Gary, that looks like the 52nd st. store, which I was in once while 
clubbing. Any chance, 42nd st only Commodore, 52nd st other labels also?
I definitely remember the counter in the 42nd st store as being on the right 
as you walked in.

Howard H.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cary Ginell" <soundthink at live.com>
To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Stores



Here's a link to the image:



http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/I?gottlieb:2:./temp/~ammem_rMhs::displayType=1:m856sd=gottlieb:m856sf=10631:@@@



Cary Ginell

> From: soundthink at live.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:24:08 -0800
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Stores
>
>
> I don't mean to challenge your memory about Commodore, but there is a 
> photograph of the interior of the Commodore Shop taken in 1947 that shows 
> a whole array of different records. You can even see a customer purchasing 
> the Kid Ory Columbia 78 album with the Jim Flora art cover. They never 
> would have been able to stay in business selling only new Commodore 
> records. Gabler was too smart a businessman to restrict his customers to 
> just buying his own stuff.
>
>
>
> Commodore did have two storefronts at one time, though; Milt opened his 
> own shop in 1938 at 46 W. 52nd St. (the original shop was at 144 E. 42nd 
> St.). Not being old enough to have visited either shop, I don't know what 
> the differences were between the two locations.
>
>
>
> In 1926, Julius Gabler (Milt's father) contacted all the major record 
> companies and had them send him the latest jazz releases. As far as I 
> know, the store stocked all new jazz records from then on, and augmented 
> the stock with the Commodore and UHCA releases as they came out.
>
>
>
> Cary Ginell
>
> > From: hhoffmst at charter.net
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:10:36 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Stores
> >
> > As I recall my weekly visits in the forties, Commodore only sold 
> > Commodore
> > records, and only new.
> >
> > Howard H.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Steven C. Barr" <stevenc at interlinks.net>
> > To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Stores
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> > >> Cary Ginell wrote:
> > >>> I'm finishing up my book on Hollywood's Jazz Man Record Shop, and in 
> > >>> the
> > >>> first chapter, I discuss the Commodore Shop. My research shows that 
> > >>> they
> > >>> started selling records as early as 1926, not 1933.
> > >>> Cary Ginell
> > >>>
> > >> It's too bad Milt Gabler never did the autobiography everyone asked 
> > >> him
> > >> to do, but all the ads are there, and Billy Crystal has his uncles's 
> > >> and
> > >> his father's stuff. His father managed the store when Milt went to
> > >> Decca. Again I mention the interesting DVD Billy did a few years ago
> > >> about his Uncle Milt.
> > >>
> > > But Commodore even started and ran their own label! Did they also sell
> > > new records on other labels...and, if so, more than one label or group
> > > thereof? That is the change in record sales that I'm trying to 
> > > date...?!
> > >
> > > Steven C. Barr
> > >
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