[78-L] Fw: Olde-timers

simmonssomer simmonssomer at comcast.net
Sat Jan 23 10:00:49 PST 2010


BIG OOPS> Sorry Gene. It wasn't you who sent the post I responded to.
Please accept my apology.

Al Simmons
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "simmonssomer" <simmonssomer at comcast.net>
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Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Olde-timers


> Eugene, I have to forgive your lack of knowlelge about what went on in
> Europe in the forties.
> The German Army marched into Paris in June 1940 and very quickly, 
> reprisals,
> executions, roundups began.
> As she had received so much acclaim, popularity and success in France,
> Josephine Baker felt she owed something and instead of returning to the 
> USA
> she joined the resistance in France. (The underground)
> That's not taking "an active roll in politics" in your lexicon.
> It was risking her life for Liberty as did so many Europeans during the
> widespread occupation by thugs and murderers.
> I am sorry however, that she  ruined her value as an entertainer for you.
>
> Al Simmons
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "eugene hayhoe" <jazzme48912 at yahoo.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Olde-timers
>
>
>> Re: When an actor or singer, etc. takes an active roll in politics it
>> ruins their value as an entertainer for me. When I see or hear them I
>> think of a no brain blow hard politician instead of enjoying the
>> entertainment. What gives them the license to become an expert in
>> something just because they are popular as an entertainer. It is like” hi
>> I am Joe your plumber. Being I know so much about pipes, I am also an
>> expert in US foreign policy. You should listen to me. The current
>> administration is going about it all wrong.” Joe you were my plumber. I
>> used to like so and so as a singer, now I don’t want to hear them.
>> Entertainment is just that, not the nightly news.
>> - kenmath at yahoo.com
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> But what if what they are saying (singers, musicians, entertainers) makes
>> more sense to you than other 'positions' you hear from other people?
>>
>> On a broader, different level, I don't discount someone's art because of
>> their politics - for example, I think Celine was a great writer, but I
>> can't think of many whose politics are more abhorrent to me. I'm willing
>> to listen to almost anyone's political position as long as it is fact
>> based, coherent and not something I've already heard many times before.
>>
>> Vague though they may be, I'll take the politics of someone like Paul
>> Robeson, Bob Marley or Kurt Weill over those of a Richard Nixon or a Bill
>> Clinton, etc. Further, I see no reason why performers should be compelled
>> to lose their free speech rights (I think most are aware they may 
>> alienate
>> some with their POV) just because the are performers. Also. I certainly
>> have a higher opinion of the political sophistication of performers as a
>> class than I do the political sophistication of politicians as a class -
>> it isn't even close in my mind.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Olde-timers, MM
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 11:08 AM
>>
>>
>> I bought it for 69 cents in New York in the 70s..probably could have 
>> taken
>> a
>> ton of them but that's not an option when you're a tourist.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> eugene hayhoe wrote:
>>> Actually I wish I had bought the lot back around 1970-72 when I saw a
>>> boxful or so of them marked 3/$1; at the time I just thought 'how
>>> stupid,' without thinking that they'd make a great gag gift (or that 
>>> they
>>> weren't silent). Picked up one up cheap a couple years back just so that
>>> I could confirm, as dl states, that it was indeed silence.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Olde-timers
>>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 10:36 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't laugh..Michael Viner put out an album on MGM called "An Evening
>>> with
>>> Marcel Marceao" (probably misspelled on purpose). 18 minutes of silence
>>> followed by rapturous applause on each side.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr. wrote:
>>>>> Marcel Marceau?
>>>> Did he make any records? Let's see, oh yes, I do have one. Listen:
>>>> "---------------"
>>>> Nice beat. I'll give it an 8.
>>>>
> -l
>>
>
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