[78-L] Olde-timers

Cary Ginell soundthink at live.com
Fri Jan 22 20:59:57 PST 2010


Speaking of old timers. Jean Simmons just died. She was in the original film version of "Guys and Dolls" as Sarah Brown and, most memorably for me, Kirk Douglas' lady fair Varinia in "Spartacus."

Cary Ginell

> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:50:46 -0500
> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Olde-timers
> 
> As I said, she became a much better actress in the 80s. I liked "Madame 
> Souzatzka". A little bit of the "kook" goes a long long way. She just irritates 
> me..
> 
> dl
> 
> Taylor Bowie wrote:
> > I like her in "Some Came Running,"  "The Turning Point,"   and a few others. 
> > I wish I could have seen her when she understudied Carol Haney in "The 
> > Pajama Game"  on Broadway.
> > 
> > Taylor
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 8:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Olde-timers
> > 
> > 
> >> I can't stomach her books and her pretentiousness. She was a dangerous 
> >> woman
> >> for a few years in the 80s..there's nothing worse than an actor who gets
> >> enlightened (or runs for politics). She got to be a much better actress 
> >> when
> >> she got older. "Irma La Douce" and "Can Can" are so lugubrious I want to
> >> scream. At least you get to see a few other talented people and some good
> >> choreography in "Sweet Charity" (too bad they dropped one of the best 
> >> songs,
> >> "Baby Dream Your Dream").
> >>
> >> dl
> >>
> >> Cary Ginell wrote:
> >>> I thought Shirley was very charming and lovable in "The Apartment."
> >>>
> >>> Cary Ginell
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:20:24 -0500
> >>>> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> >>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Olde-timers
> >>>>
> >>>> You can actually make it through Can Can? I couldn't! Or anything else 
> >>>> with
> >>>> Shirley MacLaine, for that matter. Seriously, I was raised on early 
> >>>> Chevalier
> >>>> records and it was pathetic to see him slog through Gigi and Can Can 
> >>>> (playing
> >>>> the same part).
> >>>>
> >>>> Take him out and shoot him, I say.
> >>>>
> >>>> dl
> >>>>
> >>>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
> >>>>> dl opined:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And he wasn't an embarrassment in his later years, unlike Sophie or
> >>>>>> Maurice
> >>>>>> (suffering through those creaky old crocks on the Ed Sullivan Show is
> >>>>>> still
> >>>>>> enough to cause me to avoid any of their later output). Nobody pointed 
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> gun at
> >>>>>> his head and forced him to record Hello Dolly.
> >>>>> I can remember seeing Sophie Tucker on Ed Sullivan when I was about 
> >>>>> eight or
> >>>>> nine...I was totally amazed and enjoyed it very much...and that first
> >>>>> impression later got me interested in her old records when I started
> >>>>> collecting at age 12.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The first I recall of Chevalier was seeing the movie Can-Can when I was
> >>>>> about seven or eight...same thing.  I thought he was great and I still
> >>>>> collect his stuff along with Sophie's!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Taylor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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