[78-L] Baldwin label for sale

[David Lennick]

Isn't it odd that one piano company would have a label naming another? Or did 
the Starr Piano Company handle Baldwins?

"The Steinway people have asked me to announce that this is a Baldwin piano."
--Victor Borge

dl

Han Enderman wrote:
> I fully agree that this image is the 2nd Baldwin label (from Starr).
> I was unaware of the fact that there were 2 Baldwins (I now see them described in Sutton's ARLC)
> and should have seen that ARLIE lists the images as Baldwin 2.
> The label layout is indeed completely different from BD&M products (which have
> a long dash in the cat.nr).
> 
> So we have no label image at all of the BD&M Baldwin label !
> Sutton says that it was mfd for an unknown distributor or retailer, but Vreede says that 
> Baldwin & Carnival were store labels, "both for John Wanamaker Store, New York".
> 
> The 2nd Baldwin label (from Starr ) is still extremely rare. It remains a label I had never found before.
> The 2 images in ARLIE show:
> B-496 - Guess (comp Alfred Feltman) by Val Ernie. Poss. this tune can be dated?
> B-585 - St. Juste Zamor & Haitian Group: Ti Fi M'Pale.... (mx 1008).
> Mal, can you date this release?
> 
> Han Enderman
> ===
>>>> In nearly 6 years of collecting 78 label images, I had never found a 1920s Baldwin.
> I knew the label existed, since it is present in ARLIE (in 2 color variants), just as is the 
> even rarer Chautauqua label.
> And Max Vreede mentioned both labels in Storyville 89 (1980, p.183) in his article on the Puritan label.
> But the latter label is so rare that it was misspelled 'Chatauqua'.
> 
> Both were "store"labels, produced by Paramount-connected BD&M, like Puritan & Broadway 
> (both also produced by NYRL) and Triangle, Hudson, Mitchell, National (from NCC), Pennington, Resona, 
> Ross Stores, etc.
> And now you can see one on ebay, # 390145412579.
> (he)
> ---
> Yes, but the Baldwin pictured is most probably a Gennett product! Check 
> the typestyle of the label name.
> Mal Rockwell
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> <http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=9IAhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iYsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1129%2C2742541>
>>From the "Palm Beach (Florida) Daily News" January 25, 1938:
> 
> "...Val Ernie's band is still making dancing feet tingle on The Patio's 
> open air dance floor until all hours. Al Nathan, the chap who plays a 
> rat-a-tat on everything in sight when Va! Ernie's band gets hot, 
> furnishes plenty of what it takes with the drums, vibraphones and chime: 
> to round out one of the finest dance orchestras in the world. Al has 
> been with Val Ernie for eight years and is one of the most colorful of 
> the band's musicians. His work with Val's orchestra has been 
> outstanding. Timing, rhythm and technique! Al has them all according to 
> Val Ernie, The Patio's brilliant maestro."
> 
> It's pretty obviously a late 30's disk, and this seems to confirm that. 
> It's not a Gennett; I wonder it was a vanity pressing?
> Glen
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> Han - are you sure this is the 1920s Baldwin?  The ARLIE disc only shows one type of Baldwin with 2 colors but the book lists two different Baldwins.  It appears to me that the pictures on the disc are from the second Baldwin which is from the 1930s and produced by Starr Piano.  I don't see the 1920s version on the disc produced by BD&M.
> Glenn
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