[78-L] Bixing from Revised American Dance Band Discography

eugene hayhoe jazzme48912 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 20 14:39:34 PST 2010


Many think any publicity is good publicity - I've even had people I was interviewing ask me to "throw in some lies."  
 


--- On Wed, 1/20/10, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com> wrote:


From: Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Bixing from Revised American Dance Band Discography
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM


I even recall that Avakian was trying to debunk some of the old stories. 
That's the problem with such a strategy...when you reprint the stories, 
even to debunk them,  some folks will just miss the debunking.

I mean...how cold does it get in New England in August?

Taylor


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Bixing from Revised American Dance Band Discography


> Some of those legends are in the note by George Avakian to the Columbia 
> Bix
> album (1940), particularly the one about the dance date and the open car 
> and
> the pneumonia.
>
> dl
>
> Cary Ginell wrote:
>> I think you misinterpreted the article. Read it again. Shaw was merely 
>> pointing out all of the "bixings" regarding Bix's life and career - the 
>> same old tired myths about Bix that have been perpetuated over the years. 
>> Note that in italics, he does debunk some of these, but maybe he didn't 
>> do as good a job as he could in showing what he was actually trying to 
>> say. Shaw has read "Bix; Man and Legend" as well as the new Bix book 
>> (highly recommended by the way) by Jean Pierre Lion. By comparing the 
>> Bixings with the tripe that came out of Ken Burns' "Jazz" docudrama (I 
>> refuse to call it a documentary), Shaw is merely pointing out that 
>> legends are often made of misstatements, assumptions, rumors, and 
>> honest-to-God lies.
>>
>> Cary Ginell
>>
>>> From: simmonssomer at comcast.net
>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:38:10 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Bixing from Revised American Dance Band Discography
>>>
>>> Well for just one thing, strictly from memory......Paul Whiteman was
>>> extremely kind AND patient with Bix. Paying for rehabilitation,,,putting 
>>> up
>>> with lengthy absences but keeping his chair open...and putting up with 
>>> the
>>> fact that Bix drank to ruination, could not read and had to sit with his
>>> horn in his mouth but not actually playing on more than a few 
>>> occasions..
>>> He loved Bix (as do I) and although he was in a commercial straight 
>>> jacket
>>> did give Bix spots where possible.. This is not what that article
>>> maintained. There were lots of other wrong statements but I don't have 
>>> time
>>> right now to go back and look them up. I promise I will review it in a 
>>> few
>>> days and give you my take with citations from the article on the whole
>>> thing.
>>> Thanks for your patience.
>>>
>>> Al
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Cary Ginell" <soundthink at live.com>
>>> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Bixing from Revised American Dance Band Discography
>>>
>>>
>>>> Please elaborate, Al. I saw nothing twaddle-worthy in the article.
>>>>
>>>> Cary Ginell
>>>>
>>>>> From: simmonssomer at comcast.net
>>>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:51:28 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Bixing from Revised American Dance Band 
>>>>> Discography
>>>>>
>>>>> I read about two pages and almost threw up. I quit while I still had 
>>>>> my
>>>>> sanity.
>>>>> What pernicious twaddle!
>>>>>
>>>>> Al Simmons
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "eugene hayhoe" <jazzme48912 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:01 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Bixing from Revised American Dance Band 
>>>>> Discography
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't miss this on the site:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.rustbooks.com/articles/Bixing%202.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Wed, 1/20/10, simmonssomer <simmonssomer at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: simmonssomer <simmonssomer at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Revised American Dance Band Discography
>>>>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 9:35 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Great.....except.......... with another thousand dollars I could buy a
>>>>> new
>>>>> Honda Civic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al Simmons
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Julian Vein" <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>
>>>>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:56 AM
>>>>> Subject: [78-L] Revised American Dance Band Discography
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> This can be ordered from:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.rustbooks.com/books2.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julian Vein
>>>>> _______________________________
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