[78-L] Victor catalog: 1st Orthophonic discs

[Cary Ginell]

Here is the example that I was looking for:

Montgomery Ward M-8212 (Victor masters)

A: "At the Cross" - The Turney Brothers (Carson Robison & Frank Luther) - recorded 11-28-28 ELECTRICAL
B: "There Is a Foundtain Fill'd with Blood" - Trinity Choir - recorded 2-28-18  ACOUSTIC

Cary Ginell

> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:27:27 -0500
> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Victor catalog: 1st Orthophonic discs
> 
> I suppose it's possible that some country sides were paired acoustical + 
> electrical but I doubt there'd have been many (any?) others on Victor. On 
> Columbia, yes..probably on Brunswick as well. And many acousticals were kept in 
> print well into the 30s on Victor and Columbia, in their original couplings 
> (even on Blue Wax on Columbia). One definite Columbia acoustical/electrical 
> combo I know of is 14079, Bessie Smith: You've Been a Good Old Wagon (January 
> 14/25) b/w Dixie Flyer Blues (May 15/25).
> 
> And yes there are copies of Victor 35822 which use the acoustical second half 
> of Rhapsody in Blue instead of the electrical. I thought this happened only on 
> Canadian pressings c. 1941 but it turns up on some US pressings as well.
> 
> dl
> 
> Cary Ginell wrote:
> > I erred when I said that there were some - I just recall a couple of anomalies reported on 78-L. But with the catalog, it would be interesting to find others! I know that I have a Montgomery Ward 78 with spirituals on each side: one acoustic and one electrical. Both come from Victor masters. I'll report on that one later tonight or tomorrow.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Cary Ginell
> >  
> >> From: dnjchi78 at live.com
> >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:03:57 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Victor catalog: 1st Orthophonic discs
> >>
> >>
> >> In my limited 60 years of record collecting, I don't recall any Victor disc combining an acoustic on one side with an electrical on the other. (I know, Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue did, erroneously.) Were there some?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Don Chichester
> >>
> >>> From: soundthink at live.com
> >>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:19:28 -0800
> >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Victor catalog: 1st Orthophonic discs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'll check it out when I get home. From a cursory look, it doesn't appear that the catalog shows both paired sides of specific records. You have to know the titles, since they're all listed alphabetically. I didn't check to see if there were artist sections interspersed with the titles, as catalogs usually included.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cary Ginell
> >>>
> >>>> From: mbiel at mbiel.com
> >>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:09:55 -0700
> >>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Victor catalog: 1st Orthophonic discs
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> . . . the subject has come up fairly often about which electrical sides
> >>>>> were paired with acoustic sides. . . . Many Victor records paired acoustic
> >>>>> with electrical recordings. This catalog will document all existing
> >>>>> issues of this nature to that time. Cary Ginell
> >>>> REALLY??!! I thought when this subject came up it was determined that
> >>>> the only example found was the promotional Canadian issue that Steve
> >>>> Barr detailed. I know that Steve has this catalog -- him showing it to
> >>>> us is in Leah's outtakes -- so I would think he would have gone thru it
> >>>> to see about American examples.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you give us a "preview" of this catalog by giving us some examples
> >>>> of these mixed issues mentioned in it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
> >>>>
> >>>> __________________________
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