[78-L] Columbia 415 questions.

[Royal Pemberton]

It's up on YT now, and should be viewable any minute now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyYwyGxQDwM

I thought of a couple more questions regarding the earliest Columbia
discs....

In all the instances where a 10 inch record was produced in addition to the
7 inch, as there were then no prefixes assigned to matrix numbers pertaining
to the sizes of the records, would the first 10 inch take of a given
selection also be identified as take 1?  Or would something like the
following be the norm:  Let's say, at a session for a certain new title, the
7 inch master was first attempted, with three takes recorded.  They would
then set about attempting a master for the 10 inch version.  And let's say
they made three 10 inch attempts.  As these would also have the same basic
matrix number as the 7 inch items, would these also be suffixed -1/-2/-3, or
would these have been -4/-5/-6?

It would be interesting to see where the Columbia A140 issue of 'In the
clock store' matrix count began, being the double-disc release of the 10
inch version of what once was Climax 1 on a 7 inch disc.

Do any of the early Climax era Columbia records say 'Climax Record' in the
announcement at the beginning?



On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Royal Pemberton <ampex354 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'll post my record on YouTube later today so you can hear it for
> yourself.  It sure doesn't sound like Harry Macdonough!
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:
>
>> Having said that, I now look back a couple of numbers and find that one
>> take of
>> Columbia 409 (Home Sweet Home) is tentatively identified, from the spoken
>> announcement, as "Mr. Marshall" so you may be right about that name.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:04 AM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Columbia Master Book lists Harry Macdonough and doesn't list takes.
>> >> Columbia and Climax 7-inch and 10-inch. Only the 7-inch Climax is
>> indicated
>> >> as
>> >> "self-announced" but there's so much missing info on early Columbias,
>> every
>> >> time I cite a reference from this book someone comes up with 3 more
>> >> unlisted
>> >> versions.
>> >>
>> >> dl
>> >>
>> >> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>> >>> I have this on a 7" disc (silver ring label, 415-1 handwritten in wax
>> >> near
>> >>> the spindle hole), 'The new born king'....from what I can make out of
>> the
>> >>> lyrics in spots, it is a Christmas song.
>> >>>
>> >>> Wild guesstimation:  recorded circa November 1901?
>> >>>
>> >>> Also typical for the era, 'tenor solo' on the label with no artiste
>> >> credit.
>> >>> Can someone give me the correct name of the singer?  It's hard to
>> hear,
>> >> it
>> >>> sounds like 'Mister Marshes' but I'm not sure.  I also wonder if
>> anyone
>> >> else
>> >>> recorded the same selection on other matrices, such as J W Myers,
>> and/or
>> >> if
>> >>> 'Marshes' also recorded the 10" opposite number that surely must exist
>> >>> somewhere?
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