[78-L] Cutting Decelit (or lacquer?) disc on vintage equipment

[Milan P Milovanovic]

Dear members,

I've been listening to recording engineer more closely and carefully at the 
label.

At 0:34 he pronounced "Decelit" and also something as "foil" in German.

So, it is Decelit, not lacquer and certainly not shellac disc!

Matter of fact, I've never seen such rigid Decelit and in such small 
diameter.


Too much work with brush across the plate.

That method shown at the beginning of "Crossroads" movie makes much more 
sense to me - smaller brush to struggle with residue/sawdust.


Best wishes,

Milan






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Cutting Decelit (or lacquer?) disc on vintage equipment


> From: "Milan P Milovanovic" <milanpmilovanovic4 at gmail.com>
>>> Demonstration video clip in German (by Claus Peter Gallenmiller and 
>>> Ulrich Illing):
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbekimMfqmY
>
> From: "Milan P Milovanovic" <milanpmilovanovic4 at gmail.com>
>> yesterday I found this interesting clip - contemporary demonstration
>> video clip in German (by Claus Peter Gallenmiller and Ulrich Illing):
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbekimMfqmY
>> Pardon me, but I can't identify blank? It looks like nitrate/lacquer
>> with aluminum core, not Decelit what I've been expected for cutter
>> machine such as this (German production, around 1937.)... Any thoughts?
>> Regards,  Milan Milovanović
>
> Blow it up to full-screen and look at the label very carefully,
> especially after he removes the holddown for a few seconds.  It looks
> like a Decelit label to me.  As he holds it before putting it on the TT
> it is also notable that the label area is very dull.  The reflection
> seen on the disc also distorts for a second, indicating it is flexible.
> I think the edge of the disc is a little deteriorated which makes a
> little bit of reddish show.
>
> Also, I have posted this comment:  "It is interesting that we did not
> get a payback of the disc.  we have no way of knowing if the machine was
> recording correctly or just cutting a blank groove.   Can a playback be
> posted?   Also, the title of this film is incorrect.  This is not a
> shellac disc.  It can't be.  It is either a nitrate cellulose lacquer
> disc, or a plastic Decelith."
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
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