[78-L] "New media" for Victrolas?...

[bruce78rpm at comcast.net]

The best part of it, is when you get tired of the record, you can always eat it !! That was almost as good hearing it, I can attest to that as I have both played and eaten some of Ron's fabulous Chocolate Record creations. It is good quality tasty Chocolate. I ate an Ada Jones record once, and could only talk and sing in a soprano voice for 2 or three days afterward !! 
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From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu> 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 10:05:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
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I used a 3.0 stylus on a Stanton 600 cartridge. A cool record works best 
because the chocolate is a bit harder. It is not unlike playing an early 
wax cylinder with a modern pick up. 

Ron L 

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[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of David Lennick 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:58 AM 
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What size stylus tip is best for playing chocolate records? 

dl 

Ron L'Herault wrote: 
> If you really have a special record that you like to play a lot, there is 
a 
> way to create new ones. Start with a good copy of the disk, the best you 
> can find. You then purchase flexible (usually two-part liquid) 
impression 
> material and make a mold of the record. You've created a kind of 
"stamper". 
> You then use a hard epoxy (usually two-part liquid) which you pour into 
the 
> mold and let cure. Carefully peel off the mold and you will have a 
playable 
> copy along with a mold to make more. All it takes is time and money, the 
> two ingredients necessary to solve almost all problems. Smooth-on is one 
> company that makes such products. www.smooth-on.com I have not used 
their 
> products but have seen them used for antique furniture repair (recreating 
> moldings for example). They have a wide range of materials. 
> 
> I know the technique works because I have used dental impression material 
to 
> create chocolate Little Wonder records that play on modern equipment and 
> sound just as good as the original. They taste a lot better. 
> 
> Ron L 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com 
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Michael Biel 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:12 AM 
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] "New media" for Victrolas?... 
> 
> 
> You don't need a newly manufactured record, but records in very good 
> condition. As David Lennick indicated, they would probably be be 
> pressed in vinyl which would be utterly destroyed with the first 
> playing. If you just want some old records to play on the machine, they 
> shouldn't be really hard to find. I'm going to the Mechanical Music 
> show in Wayne NJ this Sunday and there will be plenty of them there, and 
> certainly some of the West Coasters here could guide you to places you 
> might find some. But remember, you MUST use a new needle EVERY TIME, or 
> else your records will wear out very fast. Most of us do not play our 
> records on old players unless the records are common, duplicates, or 
> otherwise relatively disposable. Playing records on old players is 
> playing the machine, not playing the record. You do it to hear the 
> machine. If you want to hear the recording, you play it on modern 
> equipment. 
> 
> NEVER use old needles you found in the machine because they were all 
> probably used -- unless they came in a needle tin that seems to have all 
> unused needles. There are dealers who sell new needles. If you slowly 
> twirl the needle in your fingers and see light glinting off the point as 
> you turn it, that is light reflecting off of the flattened edges of the 
> worn needle, and these flat edges will tear the records up. Also, 
> unless you are using a late-20s Orthophonic or some other machine 
> designed for playing electrical records, you should only play acoustical 
> records on an acoustical machine. Electrical records will usually be 
> too loud, too bassy, and too shrill, and will wear out faster and 
> sometimes start your reproducer buzzing. You certainly don't want to 
> play anything from the 40s or 50s. 
> 
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
> 
> 
> 
> David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote: 
>> They'd have to be pressed on shellac or something equally 
>> hard ..ever see what happens to a vinyl disc when you lower 
>> a soundbox with a steel needle into it? dl 
> 
>> Bruce England wrote: 
>>> Hello: 
>>> I just checked out your 78rpmrecord.com web site, and it's 
>>> very good; interesting and useful! 
>>> What I'm trying to figure out at the moment is if *anybody* 
>>> is pressing new 78's playable on acoustic Victrolas. All of 
>>> the records I have at this point are pretty well worn, and 
>>> it would be way cool to be able to hear fresh grooves for 
>>> a change. Do you have any idea(s)? Thanks and bye for now! 
>>> Bruce England Mountain View, CA 
> 
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