[78-L] "New media" for Victrolas?...

[David Lennick]

Put de lime in de coconut and drink 'em bot' up.

dl

Don Chichester wrote:
> Shredded cocoanut.
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> dc
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>> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:57:44 -0400
>> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] "New media" for Victrolas?...
>>
>> What size stylus tip is best for playing chocolate records?
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Ron L'Herault wrote:
>>> If you really have a special record that you like to play a lot, there is a
>>> way to create new ones. Start with a good copy of the disk, the best you
>>> can find. You then purchase flexible (usually two-part liquid) impression
>>> material and make a mold of the record. You've created a kind of "stamper".
>>> You then use a hard epoxy (usually two-part liquid) which you pour into the
>>> mold and let cure. Carefully peel off the mold and you will have a playable
>>> copy along with a mold to make more. All it takes is time and money, the
>>> two ingredients necessary to solve almost all problems. Smooth-on is one
>>> company that makes such products. www.smooth-on.com I have not used their
>>> products but have seen them used for antique furniture repair (recreating
>>> moldings for example). They have a wide range of materials. 
>>>
>>> I know the technique works because I have used dental impression material to
>>> create chocolate Little Wonder records that play on modern equipment and
>>> sound just as good as the original. They taste a lot better.
>>>
>>> Ron L
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Michael Biel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:12 AM
>>> To: 78-L Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] "New media" for Victrolas?...
>>>
>>>
>>> You don't need a newly manufactured record, but records in very good
>>> condition. As David Lennick indicated, they would probably be be
>>> pressed in vinyl which would be utterly destroyed with the first
>>> playing. If you just want some old records to play on the machine, they
>>> shouldn't be really hard to find. I'm going to the Mechanical Music
>>> show in Wayne NJ this Sunday and there will be plenty of them there, and
>>> certainly some of the West Coasters here could guide you to places you
>>> might find some. But remember, you MUST use a new needle EVERY TIME, or
>>> else your records will wear out very fast. Most of us do not play our
>>> records on old players unless the records are common, duplicates, or
>>> otherwise relatively disposable. Playing records on old players is
>>> playing the machine, not playing the record. You do it to hear the
>>> machine. If you want to hear the recording, you play it on modern
>>> equipment. 
>>>
>>> NEVER use old needles you found in the machine because they were all
>>> probably used -- unless they came in a needle tin that seems to have all
>>> unused needles. There are dealers who sell new needles. If you slowly
>>> twirl the needle in your fingers and see light glinting off the point as
>>> you turn it, that is light reflecting off of the flattened edges of the
>>> worn needle, and these flat edges will tear the records up. Also,
>>> unless you are using a late-20s Orthophonic or some other machine
>>> designed for playing electrical records, you should only play acoustical
>>> records on an acoustical machine. Electrical records will usually be
>>> too loud, too bassy, and too shrill, and will wear out faster and
>>> sometimes start your reproducer buzzing. You certainly don't want to
>>> play anything from the 40s or 50s.
>>>
>>> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:
>>>> They'd have to be pressed on shellac or something equally
>>>> hard ..ever see what happens to a vinyl disc when you lower
>>>> a soundbox with a steel needle into it? dl
>>>> Bruce England wrote:
>>>>> Hello:
>>>>> I just checked out your 78rpmrecord.com web site, and it's
>>>>> very good; interesting and useful!
>>>>> What I'm trying to figure out at the moment is if *anybody*
>>>>> is pressing new 78's playable on acoustic Victrolas. All of
>>>>> the records I have at this point are pretty well worn, and
>>>>> it would be way cool to be able to hear fresh grooves for
>>>>> a change. Do you have any idea(s)? Thanks and bye for now!
>>>>> Bruce England Mountain View, CA