[78-L] Widely separated matrix numbers..!

[Royal Pemberton]

I recall reading about that (downright silly of them to do that!); I was
thinking of recordings that were begun after the switch to that system.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 4:56 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Victor? Victor began changing old matrix numbers to the new system! Not
> sure if
> this began in the 40s or early 50s, but masters from 1900 through the 1930s
> would have "retro" new numbers. Perfect example: C8-VB-0001..Artie Shaw's
> 1938
> "Indian Love Call" on an early 50s reissue.
>
> dl
>
> Royal Pemberton wrote:
> > I wonder how late Columbia continued that old practice of keeping the
> same
> > basic matrix number, just extending the take counts at subsequent re-make
> > sessions?  (Was Victor still doing so that late too?  Did they
> discontinue
> > it when they went to the alphanumberical combinations in 1942?)
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 3:26 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >> An object lesson in not estimating recording dates from matrix numbers,
> >> even
> >> when they're close to known ones (or adjacent to them!), has just played
> >> itself
> >> out here.
> >>
> >> The following two records, by cellist Gregor Piatigorsky, have
> consecutive
> >> matrix numbers but were recorded TWO YEARS APART.
> >>
> >> XCO 25682/3 (11380-D)    HAYDN: DIVERTIMENTO IN D - January 8 1942
> >>
> >> XCO 25684/5 (69836-D)    SCHUMANN: FANTASIESTUCKE OP. 73 - January 17
> 1940
> >>
> >> Seems that good ol' Gregorovich did record the Haydn piece on January
> >> 17/40,
> >> and again in October that same year, but it took a third try..with a
> >> different
> >> pianist and in a different studio (Liederkranz Hall)..before they got it
> >> right.
> >>
> >> This is a useful (if very slow) site for finding recording data. Not
> >> perfect..I
> >> found the above recordings listed there, including the unissued
> versions,
> >> but
> >> no take numbers shown.
> >>
> >> http://www.dismarc.org/index.php?form=index&db=0
> >>
> >> dl
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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