[78-L] Grammatically incorrect

[Royal Pemberton]

So are younger folk in the UK starting to sound more and more like Kerry
Katona?  She almost makes Ozzy Osbourne sound like John Gielgud!

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Julian Vein <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>wrote:

> Graeme Jaye wrote:
>  > It seems to me, the real problems start a couple or more generations
> > later. I note this coincides with the introduction of comprehensive
> > education and the general run-down of the UK manufacturing industry.
> > You might also add in the BBC allowing the introduction of regional
> > accents and the trend to pass students if they had a grasp of a
> > subject, although not being able to spell for toffee. Move on to the
> > current time and text messaging, tweeting, etc., has dealt the death
> > knell to good grammar and spelling skills.
> >
> > Even serious political debate is now primarily confined to 'sound
> > bites' - nobody wants to take the time to read or even listen to
> > anything that can't be contained within a single paragraph.
> >
> > I know we Brits talk about ourselves and the Americans being divided
> > by a common language - and I can be the first person to point out the
> > differences - but standards seem to be falling rapidly in both places.
> >
> > As it happens, I live in Spain and the general standard of both
> > written and spoken language (allowing for local differences) has not
> > dropped by anything like the same degree.  Maybe this is because the
> > 'family' element is still strong here.
> >
> > I'm not painting myself whiter than white and I can end a sentence with
> > a preposition with the best of them. I do understand that all living
> > languages evolve and one has to evolve with them.
> >
> > However, I moderate several forums and - quite honestly - I really
> > struggle to understand what some of the members are trying to say. No
> > punctuation, no capitalisation, incomplete sentences, no paragraphs
> > and abysmal spelling all combine to turn it into another language
> > altogether.  That's not evolution, just plain ignorance!
> >
> > Graeme Jaye
> ==========
> Graeme,
> What upsets me about the youth of today in Britain is their poor
> diction. They appear not to be able to sound their consonants properly,
> with the beginnings and ends of words getting chopped off. They
> pronounce their words deliberately, but badly. The worst example is
> their pronunciation of "like" as "lak", as in "Mighty Lak A Rose", with
> the final "k" barely sounded. The crispness of speech has been
> abandoned. It sounds like very much like a speech impediment.
>
> Your comments about poor communication on some of your forums, is
> probably due to the fact that they barely know how to use the keyboard,
> and don't bother with the spellcheck.
>
> I used to subscribe to a forum where communication skills were
> appalling. I thought about criticising the culprits, but thought better
> of it; perhaps English wasn't their first language.
>
> I agree that language evolves, but we shouldn't let it dissolve. If
> people want to change language, then they should argue their case for
> doing so. In the meantime I shall stand my ground and refuse to be
> dragged down into the abyss of incomprehension. Perhaps we should speak
> Latin, and we (hopefully) wouldn't have that problem!
>
>      Julian Vein
>
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