[78-L] Grammatically incorrect

[David Lennick]

The comma was dropped permanently one night when they opened for Victor Borge.

(Think about it.)

dl

Cary Ginell wrote:
> As a writer and editor, I am bound by the rules of the Chicago Manual of Style, which is the house rule book for the company I work for. Certain things are relaxed a bit, however, such as ending a sentence in a preposition. I'm allowed to do that. 
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> However, you should never start a sentence with "however." I fall off the wagon sometimes.
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> Incidentally, I NEVER use the comma in PP&M. 
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> Cary Ginell
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>> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:57:54 +0100
>> From: julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Grammatically incorrect
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>> Graeme Jaye wrote:
>>> Hi Cary
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>>> On 18/09/2009 you wrote;
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>>> CG> Getting back to Mary Travers, I think that it's unfortunate
>>> CG> that for all these years, "Peter, Paul and Mary" was incorrect.
>>> CG> The Chicago Manual of Style indicates that it should have an extra
>>> CG> comma: "Peter, Paul, and Mary."
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>>> Must be an "across the pond" thing.
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>>> In the UK, I was taught that a comma should *never* precede 'and'. But
>>> then, what do we Brits know about the English language?
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>>> Looking at it, at a more basic level, the comma indicates a slight
>>> pause in the spoken text. That being the case, try reading the two
>>> versions out loud incorporating these pauses. Which one flows better?
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>>> Graeme Jaye
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>> The comma makes "Mary" either sound like an afterthought ("and, by the 
>> way, Mary") or an emphasis ("and not forgetting Mary"!). Incidentally, I 
>> don't put a comma before "etc".
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>> Julian Vein
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