[78-L] dubs

[Michael Biel]

From: Malcolm Rockwell <malcolm at 78data.com>
> Yeahbut... the mother would also have to break. You can always
> make more stampers from the mother, that's why the 4-stage process

I think this was what Royal had really meant to say, that the mother
broke, not just a stamper.  A stamper only makes about a thousand
records anyway, so they are always being remade from the mother.  If
they went back to the mother and she broke, in those years they might
have not made or saved more than one mother and they probably did not
hold onto the original metal negative during the long interval before
the reissue.

> UNLESS the mother was a plated acetate!

Lacquer.

> Then it's all a one-shot as the acetate

Lacquer.

> is destroyed in the process. You get one stamper and that's it.

They generally could not trust to get a second pull from a wax master
either, and even if they did, the later pulls were usually not as good. 
Since only about a thousand copies can be pressed from a stamper, even
in the depression I doubt they would trust pressing from the pull
directly from the studio master.  

> To the best of my knowledge there were no lacquers in 1928. No? Mal

Right, they came out in late 1934 but were not really used for mastering
for pressing until after 1936. There might be paperwork at Victor that
shows the dubbing session for the replacement master which might state
the reason for the dubbing. 

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com  
 
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DAVID BURNHAM <burnhamd at rogers.com> wrote:
 >> I just found a Hank Snow record where side A is a dub and side B is
an
 >> original pressing. I'm curious to know how one side's stamper gets
worn out
 >> faster than the other side's if they both make the same number of
records.

 Royal Pemberton wrote:
 > Sometimes, a stamper breaks. Witness 'South' by Benny Moten.
Originally
 > Victor V-38021, this 1928 record was reissued in 1934/1935 on Victor
24893.
 > What I understand is, a few early pressings of 24893 have 'South'
from the
 > original metal, but after it broke, a dub was made and used ever
after,
 > whereas 'She's no trouble' was always from the original metal AFAIK.
(My
 > copy has the circle label, 1R for the take digit, and has the typical
mid-30
 > style leadout spiral but the oval VE logo.)