[78-L] Wish my French were good enough....

simmonssomer simmonssomer at comcast.net
Tue Jul 14 04:22:23 PDT 2009


OK.  Let me do a bit of backtracking here.
Indeed, Hildegarde made her U.S. performing debut in 1936 and made only one 
obscure NYC session for UK Columbia that year which was issued on  FB 1598 
and 1641. She quickly skedaddled back to London for three years  and only 
became a resident and "established performer"of this land early in 1939 when 
the storm clouds gathered over there.. As I indicated, the first "attention" 
shown from a Yank Company was the May 22, 1939 Decca session.

Now , the only discography for Hildegarde that I have is in Rusts's "The 
Complete Entertainment Discography" and it sez that all of her London 
recordings (Oct 17, 1933 through July 18, 1938) and that 1936 NYC session 
were issued only on  British Columbia DB and BF series. No American issues 
of those sessions are shown.
Does anyone on our list know whether any of those English Columbias (1933 
through July 1938) were also issued here on US Columbia?


Al S.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Taylor Bowie" <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
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Subject: [78-L] Wish my French were good enough....


> Al...Hildegarde was born in  Wisconsin and was an established performer 
> here
> in the states before she went overseas.  It was a case of the Europeans
> recording an American before anyone recorded her over here.
>
> Her long-time manager and companion,  Anna Sosekno (who wrote H's most
> famous song hit),  in later years was also an autograph and manuscript
> dealer in New York.  She passed in 2000,  although she and Hildegarde had
> split up some years before.
>
> Hildegarde passed just a couple of years ago and as I recall she was 100 
> or
> damn close to it.
>
> Taylor
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:09 PM
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>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Taylor Bowie" <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:14 PM
>> Subject: [78-L] Over There to Over Here
>>
>>
>>>I can't speak about foreign classical records,  but in my early years of
>>> collecting (maybe 1965 -80) I don't recall seeing very many English or
>>> other
>>> foreign dance band records either on auction,  junk stores (remember
>>> them?),
>>> or in the collections of others.  Since that time,  with improved
>>> transportation,  mail service and communication,  I started seeing all
>>> sorts
>>> of English dance records on all sorts of labels and now own several
>>> hundred
>>> of the 1923-38 era.    These have pretty much all come from overseas
>>> sellers
>>> or were obtained from fellow collectors who bought them from dealers in
>>> England,  Australia,  etc.
>>>
>>> It seems very unlikely that any store in the 20s or 30s would have
>>> imported
>>> much of that English pop stuff,  and I can't see American or Canadian
>>> tourists,  packing up their trunks to come home,  being loaded down with
>>> dance records on Edison Bell Winner and Filmophone!
>>>
>>> Am I correct in saying that the first foreign popular records to be
>>> reissued
>>> in any quantity in the US were the Ray Noble HMVs reissued on Victor in
>>> the
>>> early 30s?
>>
>> Yup. Quite a good number of New Mayfairs were issued here by Victor.
>> I haven't seen  many/any  Somers. Firmans. Cottons. Foxes, Paynes, 
>> Stones,
>> Ambroses, Roys., Orpheans et al....
>> I like them a lot and have a decent number that came over by carrier
>> pigeon.
>> (equipped with long range belly tanks)
>> In the vocal Dep't. even the great Gracie Fields was ignored until she
>> skipped town  to Hollywood.
>> Hildegarde was outta there by May 1939 and had not received any attention
>> from Yank record companies until she got here
>> and "aimee beaucouped" us.
>>
>> Al S.
>>
>>
>>




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