[78-L] label Info.

Charles Bihun csintala79 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 2 11:16:16 PDT 2009


Ron,

Thanks for the reply.  For the most part your are correct.  I know mine is a dub; however, there are some HJCAs that indicate they are pressed from masters, e.g., HC-45 (The Chant), which is listed in redhotjazz's discography for the Red Hot Peppers.  I know that Gabler's reissue label, UHCA, pressed some from masters and dubbed others.

I pretty much have the technical facts down.  I was told how to tell if a reissue of a record from the 20s was from a master or dubbed (the masters won't cut lead in grooves, while a dubbed record will have them).  I know there is a Hot Jazz Club of America label and there seem to be at least 116 reissues.  What I can't find is under whose auspices this was done, i.e., was there a hot jazz society (other than UHCA and HJS) that commissioned these, was the label associated with Milt Gabler, etc.?

ChuckB



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From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at bu.edu>
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Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:40:13 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] label Info.

I'm pretty sure those were dubbed from pre-existing 78s rather than being
pressings from old metal.  The more knowledgeable collectors on the list
will have more specific info.

Ron L

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Subject: [78-L] label Info.

A while back I bought a record with a recording of Hyena Stomp and Billy
Goat Stomp by Jelly Roll Morton and the Red Hot Peppers.  I was told this is
a reissue of a Victor record from the late 20s, which I suspected.  I was
also told that this was Milt Gabler's reissue label from the Commodore
Record Shop; I don' think this is accurate or maybe not.

I can find images of Gabler's reissues, and the label is printed with,
U.H.C.A. Release, issued by the Commodore Record Shop.  The record I have
only is printed with, Hot Jazz Club of America (I have never seen this
spelled out in a discography; the acronym, HJCA, is always used).  I am also
aware of reissues by the Hot Record Society (HRS) which apparently was a
competitor of UHCA.

I can find background information on UHCA and HRS, including a full catalog
for HRS, but I can find nothing on HJCA, except for an item here and there
in a discography for an artist or an occasional sale on ebay.  From what I
have found, I think that HJCA was contemporary to the other labels.

I would appreciate any background details on the label, i.e., founders,
location of company, relation to major labels, period of existance, etc.

Thanks,

ChuckB


      
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