[78-L] Nick Lucanese Perfect 11041

Craig Ventresco craigventresco at gmail.com
Wed Jul 1 17:14:31 PDT 2009


Sorry--I have no way to sacn it right now...would if I could!

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Thomas Stern <sternth at attglobal.net> wrote:

> I would be interested in seeing a scan of the revised label, if that is
> possible.
> Thanks, Thomas.
>
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> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Craig Ventresco
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] Nick Lucanese Perfect 11041
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>
>  Hi,
> I have the pathe--It's listed as being by Nick Lucas.
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > From: Roger Wade <rwade1947 at comcast.net>
> >
> > > Here is a link to a record I currently have for sale:
> > >  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400058710715
> > > It is apparently the first record by guitarist Nick Lucas,
> >
> > or at least his first solo record.  He seems to have rcorded earlier:
> > "it was with the Vernon Country Club Orchestra that Nick began his
> > recording career as a sideman in 1921. The next year, 1922, he and his
> > brother Frank recorded for Pathe Actuelle as the Lucas Novelty Quartet
> > and the Lucas Ukulele Trio."  http://www.nicklucas.com/biography.html
> >
> > > recorded for Pathe under his real name, Nick Lucanese.
> > > Is this an unusual or uncommon record? I haven't found
> > > much about this Nick Lucanese label.
> >
> > Considering the Nick Lucas web site you quoted from had a lot of
> > information, I don't know if you need any more info about the recording,
> > but you do show the Perfect pressing and the site's discography lists
> > the Pathe Actuelle version.  I have the acoustical Brunswick of these
> > numbers he recorded the following year, and I am not sure whether I have
> > the Pathe/Perfect.  The site's discography has audio streams of all
> > three if the identified issues of these two tunes.
> >
> > > I noticed that Ty's online 78 discography gives the artist
> > > name as Nick Lucas in the entry for Perfect 11041.
> >
> > Is there a note in Ty's listing of the artist credit on the label or did
> > he just change the name?  It might be interesting to know if later
> > pressings changed the artist credit to his stage name, and what name was
> > on the Pathe.  That would be the real question -- the discography would
> > be helpful if it noted if there were two label versions or at least note
> > that although the recording is by Lucas he was not billed that way.
> >
> > > I can send the label scan to anyone who might be interested.
> > > Thanks. Roger Wade  Really Old Records
> >
> > On another point, the web site shows a record of Side By Side he made in
> > 1947 for Hucksters records on 1006 which was sold to and issued by
> > Capitol on 15242.
> > http://www.nicklucas.com/capitol.html
> > http://www.nicklucas.com/hucksters.html
> >
> > There is a stream of the Hucksters pressing on the site.  The recording
> > features overdubbing of Lucas singing harmony with himself.
> >
> > http://www.nicklucas.com/audio/discography/1006-1.mp3
> >
> > When did Les Paul do his first overdubbing record?  As I discussed on
> > ARSCList last week, Les Paul was not the first to do overdubbing
> > (although all the kiddies in the industry seem to think he invented it)
> > and it would be so ironic if the Lucas overdubbed record was released on
> > Les Paul's own label before any of his!!!
> >
> > Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> >
> >
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